On 11/22/24 21:38, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 12:25:19PM +0000, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote: >> It's an ongoing maintenance burden, discussions about seeing whether it's >> feasible to remove it have been had in multiple places. >> >> I have personally run into issues having to accommodate it on numerous >> occasions, as have many others. >> >> I'd be interested to know which products specifically ship this and also >> require tip kernel, perhaps this is just a case of my not being aware of >> certain architectures? > > I can't tell you the products I know on commercial basis. Most of them > are arm based, but I also know about at least one RISC-V one. They > all used the latest long term stable at the time of release and tend > to stay on that. And the involved vendors keep spinning out new versions > of these every few years. To add to this, we had a discussion at the RISC-V MC at plumbers last year (I think it was) about removing the K210 RISC-V SoC and associated RISC-V NOMMU support. But several people complained about that because several FPGAs implementing RISC-V cores are NOMMU (for obvious reasons for the FPGA case). So NOMMU is being used out there. -- Damien Le Moal Western Digital Research