On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 12:25:19PM +0000, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote: > It's an ongoing maintenance burden, discussions about seeing whether it's > feasible to remove it have been had in multiple places. > > I have personally run into issues having to accommodate it on numerous > occasions, as have many others. > > I'd be interested to know which products specifically ship this and also > require tip kernel, perhaps this is just a case of my not being aware of > certain architectures? I can't tell you the products I know on commercial basis. Most of them are arm based, but I also know about at least one RISC-V one. They all used the latest long term stable at the time of release and tend to stay on that. And the involved vendors keep spinning out new versions of these every few years.