On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 4:20 PM, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 11:51 PM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > So we actually need the pte_access_permitted() stuff if we want to > > ensure we're not stepping on !PAGE_USER things. > > We really don't. Not in that complex and broken format, and not for every level. > > Also, while I think we *should* check the PAGE_USER bit when walking > the page tables, like we used to, we should > > (a) do it much more simply, not with that broken interface that takes > insane and pointless flags > > (b) not tie it together with this issue at all, since the PAGE_USER > thing really is largely immaterial. > > The fact is, if we have non-user mappings in the user part of the > address space, we _need_ to teach access_ok() about them, because > fundamentally any "get_user()/put_user()" will happily ignore the lack > of PAGE_USER (since those happen from kernel space). > > So I'd like to check PAGE_USER in GUP simply because it's a simple > sanity check, not because it is important. > > And that whole "p??_access_permitted() checks against the current > PKRU" is just incredible shit. It's currently broken, exactly because > "current PKRU" isn't even well-defined when you do it across different > threads, much less different address spaces. > > This is why I'm 100% convinced that the current > "p??_access_permitted()" is just pure and utter garbage. And it's > garbage at a _fundamental_ level, not because of some small > implementation detail. So do you want to do a straight revert of these that went in for 4.15: 5c9d2d5c269c mm: replace pte_write with pte_access_permitted in fault + gup paths c7da82b894e9 mm: replace pmd_write with pmd_access_permitted in fault + gup paths e7fe7b5cae90 mm: replace pud_write with pud_access_permitted in fault + gup paths ...or take Peter's patches that are trying to fix up the damage? -- To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in the body to majordomo@xxxxxxxxx. For more info on Linux MM, see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ . Don't email: <a href=mailto:"dont@xxxxxxxxx"> email@xxxxxxxxx </a>