Hi! On 28/01/2021 12:33, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 08:27:29AM +0100, Alexander Sverdlin wrote: > >>>> +#define __smp_store_release(p, v) \ >>>> +do { \ >>>> + compiletime_assert_atomic_type(*p); \ >>>> + __smp_wmb(); \ >>>> + __smp_rmb(); \ >>>> + WRITE_ONCE(*p, v); \ >>>> +} while (0) >>> This is wrong in general since smp_rmb() will only provide order between >>> two loads and smp_store_release() is a store. >>> >>> If this is correct for all MIPS, this needs a giant comment on exactly >>> how that smp_rmb() makes sense here. >> >> ... the macro is provided for Octeon only, and __smp_rmb() is actually a NOP >> there, but I thought to "document" the flow of thoughts from the discussion >> above by including it anyway. > > Random discussions on the internet do not absolve you from having to > write coherent comments. Especially so where memory ordering is > concerned. I actually hoped you will remember the discussion you've participated 5 years ago and (in my understanding) actually already agreed that the solution itself is not broken: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20151112180003.GE17308@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/ Could you please just suggest the proper comment you expect to be added here, because there is no doubts, you have much more experience here than me? > This, from commit 6b07d38aaa52 ("MIPS: Octeon: Use optimized memory > barrier primitives."): > > #define smp_mb__before_llsc() smp_wmb() > #define __smp_mb__before_llsc() __smp_wmb() > > is also dodgy as hell and really wants a comment too. I'm not buying the > Changelog of that commit either, __smp_mb__before_llsc should also > ensure the LL cannot happen earlier, but SYNCW has no effect on loads. > So what stops the load from being speculated? > > -- Best regards, Alexander Sverdlin.