Re: [PATCH RFCv3] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters

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On 01/01/2013 06:48 PM, Manu Abraham wrote:
On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab
<mchehab@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

[RFCv4] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters

The DVBv3 quality parameters are limited on several ways:
         - Doesn't provide any way to indicate the used measure;
         - Userspace need to guess how to calculate the measure;
         - Only a limited set of stats are supported;
         - Doesn't provide QoS measure for the OFDM TPS/TMCC
           carriers, used to detect the network parameters for
           DVB-T/ISDB-T;
         - Can't be called in a way to require them to be filled
           all at once (atomic reads from the hardware), with may
           cause troubles on interpreting them on userspace;
         - On some OFDM delivery systems, the carriers can be
           independently modulated, having different properties.
           Currently, there's no way to report per-layer stats;

per layer stats is a mythical bird, nothing of that sort does exist. If some
driver states that it is simply due to lack of knowledge at the coding side.

ISDB-T uses hierarchial modulation, just like DVB-S2 or DVB-T2

Manu, you confused now two concept (which are aimed to resolve same real life problem) - hierarchical coding and multiple transport stream. Both are quite similar on lower level of radio channel, but differs on upper levels.

Hierarchical is a little bit weird baby as it remuxes those lower lever radio channels (called layers in case of ISDB-T) to one single mux! There is only single TS which demodulator is responsible to remux all those 3 physical "layer" channels, which could be modulated differently. So after demodulation you really has a TS which contains stream that has different statistics. That's opposite to compared for multiple TS principle used for DVB-T2/S2. In case of multiple TS you have same statistics for whole TS (but naturally there could be multiple TS after demodulation).

regards
Antti

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