On 01/14/2011 04:12 PM, Devin Heitmueller wrote: > On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Thierry LELEGARD > <tlelegard@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> But there is worse. If I set a wrong parameter in the tuning operation, >> for instance guard interval 1/32, the API V3 returns the correct value >> which is actually used by the tuner (GUARD_INTERVAL_1_8), while S2API >> returns the "cached" value which was set while tuning (GUARD_INTERVAL_1_32). > > This is actually a bad thing. If you specify the wrong parameter and > it still works, then that can lead to all sort of misleading behavior. > For example, imagine the next person who submits scan results based > on using such a driver. It works for him because his driver lied, but > the resulting file works for nobody else. Scan results should contain the input parameters, because the transmission parameters can change any time (not included in any official frequency sheet of the provider) and because some parameters vary slightly with environmental influences (e.g. DVB-S frequency - i've heard of that a lot and there's code to handle it in dvb_frontend.c, but is it actually true?) and some might be read back too imprecisely to be usable with a different chipset (e.g. symbol rate). > If you specify an explicit value incorrectly (not auto) and it still > works, that is a driver bug which should be fixed. It's not possible to manually specify every single parameter or every combination of parameters (i.e. some AUTO, some not) with all devices. If you want to catch this, you'd have to compare the data read back to the data from userspace to clear the lock status on mismatch, even if a valid TS is being received. This would be worse, in my opinion. How much tolerance would you allow for parameters that aren't enums, e.g. frequency and symbol rate? Albeit, DVB-SI data isn't perfect and misconfiguration at the transmitter happens (e.g. wrong FEC values), especially where most of the parameters are signaled in-band (e.g. TPS for DVB-T). It's a better user experience if the reception continues to work, even if the user didn't specify AUTO. I'd rather understand non-AUTO parameters that way: "Try these first, but if you want and if you can, you're free to try other parameters." After all, most of the users tune to a mux in order to acquire a lock and not to prove that there's no signal. Regards, Andreas -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-media" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html