Re: CI USB

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On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 1:45 AM, Konstantin Dimitrov
<kosio.dimitrov@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 1:31 AM, Manu Abraham <abraham.manu@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 9:21 PM, Ian Wilkinson <null@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> HoP wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't know the details into the USB device, but each of those CAM's
>>> have bandwidth limits on them and they vary from one CAM to the other.
>>> Also, there is a limit on the number of simultaneous PID's that which
>>> you can decrypt.
>>>
>>> Some allow only 1 PID, some allow 3. Those are the basic CAM's for
>>> home usage.The most expensive CAM's allow a maximum of 24 PID's. But
>>>
>>>
>>> You, of course, ment number of descramblers not PIDS because it is evident
>>> that getting TV service descrambled, you need as minimum 2 PIDS for A/V.
>>>
>>> Anyway, it is very good note. Users, in general, don't know about it.
>>>
>>
>> If it is using a CI+ plus chip (I heard from someone that it is a CI+
>> chip inside) :
>> http://www.smardtv.com/index.php?page=ciplus
>>
>> After reading the CI+ specifications, I doubt that it can be supported
>> under Linux with open source support, without a paired decoder
>> hardware or software decoder. A paired open source software decoder
>> seems highly unlikely, as the output of the CI+ module is eventually
>> an encrypted stream which can be descrambled with the relevant keys.
>> The TS is not supposed to be stored on disk, or that's what the whole
>> concept is for CI+
>>
>> http://www.ci-plus.com/data/ci-plus_overview_v2009-07-06.pdf
>>
>> See pages 7, 8 , 12, 15
>>
>> It could be possible to pair a software decoder with a key and hence
>> under Windows, but under Linux I would really doubt it, if it happens
>> to be a CI+ chip
>
> at least in Windows Hauppage WinTV-CI USB (which is OEM version of
> SmartDTV USB CI) allows you to capture the decrypted stream to your
> hard drive (i've just tested it).


Maybe it is not CI+ itself in the first place


> so, i can't see a reason why even if it has CI+ chip inside same
> functionally as in Windows can't be provided in Linux if someone
> developed a driver.


It would be interesting to know what chips the hardware has  ...

Regards,
Manu
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