Re: CI USB

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On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 1:31 AM, Manu Abraham <abraham.manu@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 9:21 PM, Ian Wilkinson <null@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> HoP wrote:
>>
>> I don't know the details into the USB device, but each of those CAM's
>> have bandwidth limits on them and they vary from one CAM to the other.
>> Also, there is a limit on the number of simultaneous PID's that which
>> you can decrypt.
>>
>> Some allow only 1 PID, some allow 3. Those are the basic CAM's for
>> home usage.The most expensive CAM's allow a maximum of 24 PID's. But
>>
>>
>> You, of course, ment number of descramblers not PIDS because it is evident
>> that getting TV service descrambled, you need as minimum 2 PIDS for A/V.
>>
>> Anyway, it is very good note. Users, in general, don't know about it.
>>
>
> If it is using a CI+ plus chip (I heard from someone that it is a CI+
> chip inside) :
> http://www.smardtv.com/index.php?page=ciplus
>
> After reading the CI+ specifications, I doubt that it can be supported
> under Linux with open source support, without a paired decoder
> hardware or software decoder. A paired open source software decoder
> seems highly unlikely, as the output of the CI+ module is eventually
> an encrypted stream which can be descrambled with the relevant keys.
> The TS is not supposed to be stored on disk, or that's what the whole
> concept is for CI+
>
> http://www.ci-plus.com/data/ci-plus_overview_v2009-07-06.pdf
>
> See pages 7, 8 , 12, 15
>
> It could be possible to pair a software decoder with a key and hence
> under Windows, but under Linux I would really doubt it, if it happens
> to be a CI+ chip

at least in Windows Hauppage WinTV-CI USB (which is OEM version of
SmartDTV USB CI) allows you to capture the decrypted stream to your
hard drive (i've just tested it).

so, i can't see a reason why even if it has CI+ chip inside same
functionally as in Windows can't be provided in Linux if someone
developed a driver.

>
> Regards,
> Manu
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