On 10/30/2018 03:02 PM, Dmitry Vyukov wrote: > Hello Helen and linux-media, > > I've attended your talk "Shifting Media App Development into High > Gear" on OSS Summit last week and approached you with some questions > if/how this can be used for kernel testing. Thanks, turn out to be a > very useful talk! > > I am working on syzkaller/syzbot, continuous kernel fuzzing system: > https://github.com/google/syzkaller > https://github.com/google/syzkaller/blob/master/docs/syzbot.md > https://syzkaller.appspot.com > > After simply enabling CONFIG_VIDEO_VIMC, CONFIG_VIDEO_VIM2M, > CONFIG_VIDEO_VIVID, CONFIG_VIDEO_VICODEC syzbot has found 8 bugs in > media subsystem in just 24 hours: > > KASAN: use-after-free Read in vb2_mmap > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/syzkaller-bugs/XGGH69jMWQ0/S8vfxgEmCgAJ > > KASAN: use-after-free Write in __vb2_cleanup_fileio > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/syzkaller-bugs/qKKhsZVPo3o/P6AB2of2CQAJ > > WARNING in __vb2_queue_cancel > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/syzkaller-bugs/S29GU_NtfPY/ZvAz8UDtCQAJ > > divide error in vivid_vid_cap_s_dv_timings > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/syzkaller-bugs/GwF5zGBCfyg/wnuWmW_sCQAJ Should be fixed by https://patchwork.linuxtv.org/patch/52641/ > > KASAN: use-after-free Read in wake_up_if_idle > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/syzkaller-bugs/aBWb_yV1kiI/sWQO63fkCQAJ > > KASAN: use-after-free Read in __vb2_perform_fileio > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/syzkaller-bugs/MdFCZHz0LUQ/qSK_bFbcCQAJ > > INFO: task hung in vivid_stop_generating_vid_cap > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/syzkaller-bugs/F_KFW6PVyTA/wTBeHLfTCQAJ > > KASAN: null-ptr-deref Write in kthread_stop > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/syzkaller-bugs/u0AGnYvSlf4/fUiyfA_TCQAJ These last two should be fixed by https://patchwork.linuxtv.org/patch/52640/ Haven't figured out the others yet (hope to get back to that next week). > > Based on this I think if we put more effort into media fuzzing, it > will be able to find dozens more. Yeah, this is good stuff. Thank you for setting this up. > > syzkaller needs descriptions of kernel interfaces to efficiently cover > a subsystem. For example, see: > https://github.com/google/syzkaller/blob/master/sys/linux/uinput.txt > Hopefully you can read it without much explanation, it basically > states that there is that node in /dev and here are ioctls and other > syscalls that are relevant for this device and here are types of > arguments and layout of involved data structures. > > Turned we actually have such descriptions for /dev/video* and /dev/v4l-subdev*: > https://github.com/google/syzkaller/blob/master/sys/linux/video4linux.txt > But we don't have anything for /dev/media*, fuzzer merely knows that > it can open the device: > https://github.com/google/syzkaller/blob/12b38f22c18c6109a5cc1c0238d015eef121b9b7/sys/linux/sys.txt#L479 > and then it will just blindly execute completely random workload on > it, e.g. most likely it won't be able to come up with a proper complex > structure layout for some ioctls. And I am actually not completely > sure about completeness and coverage of video4linux.txt descriptions > too as they were contributed by somebody interested in android > testing. A quick look suggests that it is based on the 4.9 videodev2.h, which ain't too bad. There are some differences between the 4.20 videodev2.h and the 4.9, but not too many. > > I wonder if somebody knowledgeable in /dev/media interface be willing > to contribute additional descriptions? We'll have to wait for 4.20-rc1 to be released since there are important additions to the media API. I can probably come up with something, I'm just not sure when I get around to it. Ping me in three weeks time if you haven't heard from me. > > We also have code coverage reports with the coverage fuzzer achieved > so far. Here in the Cover column: > https://syzkaller.appspot.com/#managers > e.g. this one (but note this is a ~80MB html file): > https://storage.googleapis.com/syzkaller/cover/ci-upstream-kasan-gce-root.html > This can be used to assess e.g. v4l coverage. But I don't know what's > coverable in general from syscalls and what's coverable via the stub > drivers in particular. So some expertise from media developers would > be helpful too. The four virtual drivers should give pretty decent coverage of the core code. Are you able to test with a 32-bit syzkaller application on a 64-bit kernel as well? That way the compat32 code is tested. > > Do I understand it correctly that when a process opens /dev/video* or > /dev/media* it gets a private instance of the device? In particular, > if several processes test this in parallel, will they collide? Or they > will stress separate objects? It actually depends on the driver. M2M devices will give you a private instance whenever you open it. Others do not, but you can call most ioctls in parallel. But after calling REQBUFS or CREATE_BUFS the filehandle that called those ioctls becomes owner of the device until the buffers are released. So other filehandles cannot do any streaming operations (EBUSY will be returned). > You also mentioned that one of the devices requires some complex setup > via configfs. Is this interface described somewhere? Do you think it's > more profitable to pre-setup some fixed configuration for each test > process? Or just give the setup interface to fuzzer and let it do > random setup? Or both? That's the vimc driver, but the configfs code isn't in yet. Regards, Hans > > Thanks in advance >