Manu Abraham wrote: > On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 9:42 PM, David Lister <foceni@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> Manu Abraham wrote: >> >>> 2009/5/23 David Lister <foceni@xxxxxxxxx>: >>> >>> >>>> Not sure if you didn't get this email already, I had a slip-up while >>>> sending it. :) Anyway, there's also another supported card with a CI. A >>>> friend of mine has it, so I guess it works quite well with Linux. It's >>>> Mystique SaTiX-S2 (AFAIK, similar to KNC1+). Mystiques have rather >>>> quality finish and the CI module is ready for 3.5" drive installation. >>>> Some pictures from google: >>>> >>>> http://www.cesarex.com/images/Mystique-CI-1.jpg >>>> http://www.sat-servis.cz/data/eshop/fotky/produkty/velke/619.jpg >>>> >>>> Others might be able to tell you more details, I just know it works - >>>> friend has a Cryptoworks CAM in it. Take a look around, bye. >>>> >>>> >>> The Mystique is just a rebranded KNC1+ which just uses the same >>> STB0899 module, FYI. :-) >>> >>> >> Not exactly. People usually say it is a rebrand/clone of KNC1+, but it's >> not. :) There are couple of differences -- Mystique is a lighter version >> missing these features: >> 1) Signal passthrough via loop-out connector >> 2) Video input port for analogue capture >> >> I'm glad you reminded me of this misconception, the differences might be >> important for somebody. I was considering Mystique for myself, but chose >> CX24116 over STB0899, because this time, I wanted official support. I >> don't need analogue capture and CI anyway (I use softcam and for analog, >> much better Hauppauge PVR-500). I suggest Mystique instead of KNC1+ for >> purely practical reasons - it's more available, cheaper and nicer. :) >> > No misconceptions: > Oh, but there are. We were both talking about the sat version of KNC1+, not KNC1! You said and I quote: "The Mystique is just a rebranded KNC1+", which is not true. That's why I originally said that it's *similar* to Mystique, which *is* true. It might be the same as plain KNC1 or dozens of other rebranded versions, but that wasn't the point. The misconception is that "Mystique is KNC1+ clone" -- it is not. Perhaps I could have mentioned basic TV Station DVB-S too, but I didn't expect I'll have to defend every word I say. Now that I think about it, I'm glad I didn't - your inability to comprehend the simplest of meanings shines like the sun. Your follow-up comment was completely useless, arbitrary trolling. If you could face the life like a man instead of a cry baby, you wouldn't have the need to patronise me (unsuccessfully:)) in an unrelated thread just because of our earlier argument. You should be ashamed of yourself. You're a DVB driver developer and you have a hard time arguing with somebody who has seen DVB-S for the first time in his life a month ago! > > So support for it just appeared like magic ? > Were you arguing with one of your other personalities in your head that I missed something? I'm afraid you are a bit confused today, or you misinterpret the meaning of my words on purpose, or are just pissed off at me. :) Whatever. Because it might be your weak English, I'm not going to call you an idiot like you called me a few times today, even though this time it *would* be appropriate. It's the same thing as in the other thread all over again. It's impossible to have a normal intelligent conversation with you. I'm not going to support your trolling any more. As usual, I wish you good luck in your efforts. Looks like you need it. -- Dave -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-media" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html