On Sat, 7 Feb 2009, Christoph Pfister wrote: > Sorry for the late answer, No worries, I've been keeping busy by discovering yet more info. Discovering a site where not only does everyone know more than me and where all the info I could possibly want is there for the taking, but where I feel more unworthy than usual. So, while I still have yet to mangle the machine-generated output, I did observe the following: It seems that the info for Hansestadt Bremen (Radio Bremen) can be merged into that for Niedersachsen, as the presence of an RB multiplex in the latter disturbed me, until I noted that apparently all the (Bundesland) Bremen frequencies are also used in Bremerhaven. So, one less file to maintain. Not only is Hansestadt Hamburg migrating away from the VHF Band III allocation which kicked off this too-long-running thread, but at some yet unspecified time this year (2009), most if not all of the remaining Band III DVB-T transmitters will also relocate. This affects primarily Bayern, but also a few other sites (FFM, Berlin...) I don't know if the frequencies I've read are confirmed, or mere speculation; further, I know no fixed planned dates. But more importantly, I don't know if it's worth it for me to bother to announce known and confirmed changes, or if I should relax and let the official channels publish the info to be massaged into scanfiles. Any residents who might happen to read the info I post are almost certain to have already been made aware of any such changes through other media... My claim that the information for each Bundesland was not likely to change, could be an untruth. I've seen mention of additional frequency changes that were unknown to me, in addition to vacating VHF DVB-T frequencies to make available more DAB/DMB/DVB-T2 multiplexes nationally and regionally. Apparently Bundesland B-W will not only start two more ARD/SWR multiplexes in Bad Mergentheim at a lower power than the other transmitter sites, but will also start a handful of other lower power sort-of-filler sites, apparently not coordinated with ZDF. (May be R-P; my geography is poor). And there should also be some sort of pilot or comparable introduction of a Private MUX in Stuttgart, quite possibly incompatible with existing practice throughout Germany (may be use of MPEG-4 video, or perhaps DVB-T2, or maybe encryption)... > case you need to mark the individual transmitters). Actually I don't > care about the arrangement, as long as there are machine-implementable > rules for the update. Of course, first of all, I need to get off my lazy butt and actually start sorting the info you've compiled into something that will help me get an overview. Say, for Bayern, which, from the Bayerischer Rundfunk perspective, is divided into North (Franken) and South (also with good beer); to which are added a few Privates in scattered areas, partly using the same frequencies, though widely spaced... As a tradeoff, it could possibly be that some Bundesland files could be merged into a super-region -- notably the NDR and mdr regions, though this is pure speculation as I haven't rearranged any files to imbed them in my brain, and is only suggested at by the Bremen/Bremerhaven union. Talk is cheap. > >> They shouldn't be too excessive, > > I meant the number of transmitters, not the size of the file. Ah, fine, fine. As a comparison, I'll offer Helvetia. The last list of DVB-T transmitters in service I bothered to download includes some 25 pages, each with around 20 or so listed sites, for that small land. No way would I consider attempting to list these -- or even those for a particular language region or SFN part thereof, in a scanfile. > > I just updated overnight, and de-Leipzig no longer exists! > > Aieee!@ Good thing I made a backup copy of that directory > > before I updated > > hg has a good memory as well :) At my age, it's hard to unlearn the convenience of such advanced tools as `grep' and `less' on simple foo,v text files (and Attic directories) to trace a file through time. However, you're right -- I do believe that I had problems with `git' on renamed or obsolete files, and subversion appears hopeless for anything but remaining up-to-date offline, though I have enough SOCKS and https problems with that, so that I'm no longer bothered... Like they say, I learn something new every day. Pity that most days it's the same thing I learned on several previous occasions, when not each day the past week... Anyway, let this be a fore-warning that you will be likely to need to update the files for various Laender a few times this year to keep up-to-date -- and that is not to include changes to MUX contents (renaming one ZDF digital channel, or changes in Private Muxen). So I'm off to the Bundesnetzagentur to see if I can get accurate info about upcoming changes and allocations, though I believe this source will be more suitable for planning, than to generate up-to-the-minute scanfiles. barry bouwsma -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-media" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
