Re: KWorld ATSC 115 all static

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On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 04:14:03 +0100
hermann pitton <hermann-pitton@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

> 
> Am Dienstag, den 10.02.2009, 00:35 -0200 schrieb Mauro Carvalho Chehab:
> > On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 02:31:00 +0100
> > hermann pitton <hermann-pitton@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > 
> > > > > Mauro, I know you are waiting for CityK, but I can report so far that I
> > > > > never did see that black screen going away by adjusting the controls and
> > > > > never had that black screen.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Tvtime and xawtv were always working under my conditions so far.
> > 
> > Good to know.
> > 
> > > > > The very old troubles, like tda9887 not present after boot on my md7134
> > > > > devices with FMD1216ME MK3 hybrid, and the even unrelated issue with the
> > > > > tda10046 not properly controlled anymore after suspend/resume,
> > > > > are unchanged on your current saa7134 attempt, but also no new issues
> > > > > visible so far.
> > 
> > Ok, let's go by parts:
> > 
> > 1) We need to know the sequence that enables tda9887 on md7134/fmd1216me, in
> > order to fix it. If someone has fmd1216me, please write me in priv or help us
> > to fix the code for it.
> > 
> > 2) I bet that the issue with tda10046 is related to firmware loading. I made
> > some tests with a TV @nyware cardbus device that has a tda10046 + tda8290/tda8975.
> > 
> > What happens is that this device supports two type of firmware loads. The first
> > one requires an i2c eeprom with the firmware inside. The driver just writes
> > 0x04 at register 0x07 and waits for some time. The hardware does the firmware load.
> > 
> > On the second mode, firmware bytes are transferred from the driver into the tda10046 memory.
> > 
> > At the tests I made here, on both modes, the i2c bus can't have any other
> > traffic during the firmware load. Otherwise, an invalid firmware will be loaded
> > and tda10046 will hangup.
> > 
> > I've started to implement some locks at saa7134 driver (on my saa7134
> > experimental tree), but it is not finished yet. I didn't touch at the sleep code yet.
> > 
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > BTW, just to remember.
> > > > 
> > > > Tvtime with signal detection on shows a blue screen without signal.
> > > > With signal detection off, just good old snow.
> > 
> > So, the tda9887 or the PLL are configured wrongly.
> > 
> > > > The tda8275/75a shows a black screen without having lock, not even snow,
> > > > if it should be related.
> > > 
> > > Sorry, to add one more about "black" screens :)
> > > 
> > > Without the tda9887 loaded, the FMD1216ME MK3 hybrid also shows a black
> > > screen, but it is slightly different from the fully black screen of the
> > > tda8275, which is in fact an overlay like the blue screen on tvtime. It
> > > has some white points visible and on some channels even _very_ decent
> > > ghosting of TV.
> > 
> > Probably, tda9887 is configured for STD/M, instead of STD/BG. Fixing tda9887
> > will also fix this issue.
> > 
> > > The status of the tda9885/6/7 on the TUV1236D is still not clear to me,
> > > until I see debug enabled on it for switching TV standards and just
> > > nothing ever changes.
> > 
> > Sorry but I didn't understand what you're meaning with your TUV1236D-based device.
> 
> Just for that one for now, I'll try on the other subjects later.
> 
> I don't have any TUV1236D based device, but CityK and maybe Michael on
> the Kworld _ATSC_ ! 110/15.
> 
> >From the photo provided by CityK, there is clearly a 24pin Philips
> device within the IF section of this tuner, which I guess is a tda9885
> NTSC only and nothing else.
> 
> As mentioned before, they can be strapped on one pin to be NTSC
> (System-M) only without needing _any_ i2c programming according to the
> data sheets.
> 
> With the reports so far, after years, either the tda9887 module is just
> fake loaded, even that fails, or nothing ever happens, or something
> happens on i2c we don't have clear.
> 
> So I would like to see if there is ever valid i2c traffic to that
> tda988x device on that tuner or never...

Maybe we don't need any extra programming for tda9885, but it won't hurt to
reprogram it to the right state. 


Cheers,
Mauro
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