Le 28.01.2009 15:52:26, Manu Abraham a écrit : > Manu wrote: > > Le 28.01.2009 07:03:00, n37 a écrit : > >> On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 1:02 AM, Manu Abraham > >> <abraham.manu@xxxxxxxxx> > >> wrote: > >>> Alex Betis wrote: > >>>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:27 PM, Manu Abraham > >> <abraham.manu@xxxxxxxxx>wrote: > >>>>> Alex Betis wrote: > >>>>>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Manu Abraham > >> <abraham.manu@xxxxxxxxx > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Alex Betis wrote: > >>>>>>>>> It won't. All you will manage to do is burn your > demodulator, > >> if you > >>>>>>> happen > >>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>> be that lucky one, with that change. At least a few people > >> have burned > >>>>>>>>> demodulators by now, from what i do see. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> What are the symptoms of burned demodulator? How can someone > >> know if > >>>>> its > >>>>>>>> still ok? > >>>>>>> The first time i saw it was that the DVB-S2 demod was > returning > >> no > >>>>>>> carrier. After some time it was stating timing error for DVB- > S > >> as > >>>>>>> well. Finally it all ended up with demodulator I2C ACK > failure, > >> and > >>>>>>> eventually a frozen machine after a week (my test boxes run > >> throughout) > >>>>>>> Touching the demodulator, i happened to have almost a burned > >> finger. > >>>>>>> I wanted to know whether this was a single case. During the > >>>>>>> development phase, i did mention it to Julian about this, > since > >> he > >>>>>>> was the very first person to test for the stb0899 driver. He > >>>>>>> jovially laughed about a burned demodulator and a finger, > left > >> his > >>>>>>> machine on after i did some tests on it. Eventually he too > had > >> the > >>>>>>> same results. Finally we changed cards. > >>>>>> What frequency did you use to burn it? > >>>>> It was a long time back, don't remember. It has nothing to do > >> with > >>>>> the frequency of the transponder, but just the master clock. > You > >> can > >>>>> run it to a maximum of 108Mhz overclocked, 99Mhz to be safe and > >>>>> sufficient. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> I didn't see anyone here on the list that reported a hardware > >> failure so > >>>>>> far. > >>>>> May god help you. I didn't know that you knew more than the > >>>>> demodulator manufacturer ! > >>>> Please speak for yourself, I never said I know more than a > >> manufacturer. > >>>> I wrote a fact. > >>>> Intel also rate their chips and everybody overclocks them to > crazy > >> ratings. > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> By the way, Igor returned the chip frequency for 27.5 channels > >> to > >> 99MHz > >>>>> and > >>>>>> raised it a bit for higher SR channels, so there is no danger > >> for > >>>>> majority > >>>>>> of the users. > >>>>> Ok, be happy with his change and keep quiet. 135Mhz is out of > >> bounds > >>>>> of the hardware specification. You are on your own. Raising the > >>>>> master clock, doesn't bring you any advantage. > >>>> Did someone overclock you as well? > >>>> Chill out! > >>>> It would be better if you'll be more productive instead of > >> quieting > >> people > >>>> who try to help. > >>>> > >>>> Again, I'm commenting facts. As I saw from the reports the > >> overclock seems > >>>> to help with the problem. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> From your statement (and the patch), it is clearly evident that > >> you > >>>>> don't understand head or tail what you are stating or patched > the > >>>>> code for: > >>>> So be so kind, and add comments to the code you write so > everybody > >> could > >>>> find its head and tail when trying to fix bugs. > >>>> It is clearly evident that you don't really want that someone > else > >> will > >>>> understand your code. > >>>> > >>>> Again, facts are that the patch help and make the device more > >> stable for > >>>> DVB-S channels. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Oh well, I hate that I had to get so low with my message, but > >> that's that > >>>> happen when someone try to align with your expressions. > >>>> In case you didn't know, you're not alone in the universe, get > >> used > >> to it. > >>> I should be the one who should be kicked for trying to help you. > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> linux-dvb users mailing list > >>> For V4L/DVB development, please use instead > >> linux-media@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>> linux-dvb@xxxxxxxxxxx > >>> http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb > >>> > >> I am writing just to share my experience with tt3200 drivers. The > >> following are just observations about the behavior of my card: > >> > >> 1. The card has never tuned reliably with the v4l-dvb s2api driver > or > >> the multiproto driver. This concerns not just high rate dvb-s2 > >> transponders but also some plain dvb-s transponders as well. And > this > >> is not just random hiccups but consistent behavior. German > Eurosport > >> @ > >> 19.2e is a prime example. > >> 2. When Igor first increased the high clock to 135MHz, there was a > >> marked improvement. All of the tuning issues were gone. However I > am > >> using a rotor and the higher clock rate somehow broke rotor > control. > >> 3. Next Igor backed down the high clock to 99MHz and introduced a > >> "very high clock" of 135MHz. Tuning went back to unreliable. Rotor > >> control was ok. > >> 4. I bought a hvr4000. And now all of my issues are gone. > > > > I am thinking about it also :( > > You are free to choose whatever hardware you want. > > In your last post you wrote, you wanted some fixes to get going. Now > when there are fixes to test, you don't want to test .. ?? Manu, I am trying your patch with latest multiproto with no luck so far. I need a bit more time though to make sure the frequency I have is not a bit off (that already happened) so I need to test several freq (I am using szap and simpledvbtune BTW, I hope these are the right tools). I do hope to sort these issues with your help. Bye Manu -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-media" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
