Le 28.01.2009 07:03:00, n37 a écrit : > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 1:02 AM, Manu Abraham > <abraham.manu@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > Alex Betis wrote: > >> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:27 PM, Manu Abraham > <abraham.manu@xxxxxxxxx>wrote: > >> > >>> Alex Betis wrote: > >>>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Manu Abraham > <abraham.manu@xxxxxxxxx > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Alex Betis wrote: > >>>>>>> It won't. All you will manage to do is burn your demodulator, > if you > >>>>> happen > >>>>>>> to > >>>>>>> be that lucky one, with that change. At least a few people > have burned > >>>>>>> demodulators by now, from what i do see. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> What are the symptoms of burned demodulator? How can someone > know if > >>> its > >>>>>> still ok? > >>>>> The first time i saw it was that the DVB-S2 demod was returning > no > >>>>> carrier. After some time it was stating timing error for DVB-S > as > >>>>> well. Finally it all ended up with demodulator I2C ACK failure, > and > >>>>> eventually a frozen machine after a week (my test boxes run > throughout) > >>>>> > >>>>> Touching the demodulator, i happened to have almost a burned > finger. > >>>>> I wanted to know whether this was a single case. During the > >>>>> development phase, i did mention it to Julian about this, since > he > >>>>> was the very first person to test for the stb0899 driver. He > >>>>> jovially laughed about a burned demodulator and a finger, left > his > >>>>> machine on after i did some tests on it. Eventually he too had > the > >>>>> same results. Finally we changed cards. > >>>> What frequency did you use to burn it? > >>> > >>> It was a long time back, don't remember. It has nothing to do > with > >>> the frequency of the transponder, but just the master clock. You > can > >>> run it to a maximum of 108Mhz overclocked, 99Mhz to be safe and > >>> sufficient. > >>> > >>> > >>>> I didn't see anyone here on the list that reported a hardware > failure so > >>>> far. > >>> May god help you. I didn't know that you knew more than the > >>> demodulator manufacturer ! > >> > >> Please speak for yourself, I never said I know more than a > manufacturer. > >> I wrote a fact. > >> Intel also rate their chips and everybody overclocks them to crazy > ratings. > >> > >> > >>> > >>> > >>>> By the way, Igor returned the chip frequency for 27.5 channels > to > 99MHz > >>> and > >>>> raised it a bit for higher SR channels, so there is no danger > for > >>> majority > >>>> of the users. > >>> Ok, be happy with his change and keep quiet. 135Mhz is out of > bounds > >>> of the hardware specification. You are on your own. Raising the > >>> master clock, doesn't bring you any advantage. > >> > >> Did someone overclock you as well? > >> Chill out! > >> It would be better if you'll be more productive instead of > quieting > people > >> who try to help. > >> > >> Again, I'm commenting facts. As I saw from the reports the > overclock seems > >> to help with the problem. > >> > >> > >>> From your statement (and the patch), it is clearly evident that > you > >>> don't understand head or tail what you are stating or patched the > >>> code for: > >> > >> So be so kind, and add comments to the code you write so everybody > could > >> find its head and tail when trying to fix bugs. > >> It is clearly evident that you don't really want that someone else > will > >> understand your code. > >> > >> Again, facts are that the patch help and make the device more > stable for > >> DVB-S channels. > >> > >> > >> > >> Oh well, I hate that I had to get so low with my message, but > that's that > >> happen when someone try to align with your expressions. > >> In case you didn't know, you're not alone in the universe, get > used > to it. > > > > I should be the one who should be kicked for trying to help you. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > linux-dvb users mailing list > > For V4L/DVB development, please use instead > linux-media@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > linux-dvb@xxxxxxxxxxx > > http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb > > > > I am writing just to share my experience with tt3200 drivers. The > following are just observations about the behavior of my card: > > 1. The card has never tuned reliably with the v4l-dvb s2api driver or > the multiproto driver. This concerns not just high rate dvb-s2 > transponders but also some plain dvb-s transponders as well. And this > is not just random hiccups but consistent behavior. German Eurosport > @ > 19.2e is a prime example. > 2. When Igor first increased the high clock to 135MHz, there was a > marked improvement. All of the tuning issues were gone. However I am > using a rotor and the higher clock rate somehow broke rotor control. > 3. Next Igor backed down the high clock to 99MHz and introduced a > "very high clock" of 135MHz. Tuning went back to unreliable. Rotor > control was ok. > 4. I bought a hvr4000. And now all of my issues are gone. I am thinking about it also :( Does it work reliably with dvb-s/s2 and CAM? Thx Bye Manu -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-media" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html