Hi, Benjamin, I think I just wrote the email below in a way it suggests everything had gone well and the issue was resolved... but unfortunately it's not the case. In my reply, I wrote some remarks in the text body in that email, but I think they weren't noticed at all given the first paragraph. Only to recall, the problem is with a Dell Inspiron 3442, that has a touchpad which doesn't show up. It seems like it is a Synaptics I2C device. Your last advice was to insmod hid-rmi, which would hopefully make things go on after I2C basic device handshake. However, it didn't happen. I managed also to put some "printk" at the beginning and at the end of the "probe" function of hid-rmi, and it seems both were not called. I don't know if some kind of ioctl() should be issued, or if udevd should be configured some special way, but my feeling is that I am missing something really really important and obvious. Thanks, Luiz On Thu, Oct 30, 2014, at 08:06, Luiz Carlos Ramos wrote: > Hi Benjamin, > > Thanks for the assistance and quick reply. > > On Tue, Oct 28, 2014, at 23:40, Benjamin Tissoires wrote: > > Hi Luiz, > > > > On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 9:00 PM, Luiz Carlos Ramos > > <lramos.prof@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > I'm trying to make a touchpad from a Dell Inspiron I14-3442 laptop work. > > > > > > Some details: > > > > > > - I'm using plain Slackware64 14.1, but raised the kernel to 3.16.3 for > > > tests > > > > > > - xinput ignores the touchpad; it shows only a USB mouse/keyboard > > > adapter and the laptop's keyboard: > > > > > > root@pace:/sys/bus/hid/devices# xinput > > > Virtual core pointer id=2 [master pointer > > > (3)] > > > Virtual core XTEST pointer id=4 [slave > > > pointer (2)] > > > Generic USB K/B id=12 [slave > > > pointer (2)] > > > Virtual core keyboard id=3 [master > > > keyboard (2)] > > > Virtual core XTEST keyboard id=5 [slave > > > keyboard (3)] > > > Power Button id=6 [slave > > > keyboard (3)] > > > Video Bus id=7 [slave > > > keyboard (3)] > > > Power Button id=9 [slave > > > keyboard (3)] > > > Sleep Button id=10 [slave > > > keyboard (3)] > > > Integrated_Webcam_HD id=13 [slave > > > keyboard (3)] > > > AT Translated Set 2 keyboard id=14 [slave > > > keyboard (3)] > > > Dell WMI hotkeys id=15 [slave > > > keyboard (3)] > > > Video Bus id=8 [slave > > > keyboard (3)] > > > Generic USB K/B id=11 [slave > > > keyboard (3)] > > > > > > - it seems Ubuntu certified this machine (check > > > http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201402-14674/components/), > > > but it assumes the touchpad is PS/2. I haven't found it as a PS/2 thing, > > > even loading psmouse.ko, or doing other tricks > > > > > > - some articles lists some tips for making it work (like > > > http://askubuntu.com/questions/134627/how-do-i-get-the-touchpad-settings-working-on-a-dell-xps-13-ultrabook, > > > or https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1048314#c2), but I read > > > them carefully, made some tests, and they didn't work. One article says > > > I could blacklist i2c_hid or like in order to make the bring up the > > > touchpad in PS/2 mode, but I couldn't succeed doing so > > > > > > - at Dell's site, it is offered a driver for Ubuntu 12.04, but it's > > > almost obsolete. It seems to be just merged into the kernel > > > > > > - from Windows 8.1, which runs in the same machine (dual boot), I > > > concluded the proper way of making it work is to use HID over I2C. It > > > seems that there are two components loaded; one I2CHID, and a Synaptics > > > HID. This makes me hint it may be a Synaptics device > > > > Well, if this is a Synaptics HID over I2C device, it should be handled > > by hid-rmi in recent kernels (or hid-multitouch but I would say > > hid-rmi in your case). > > Is the hid-rmi module loaded? Can we get a dmesg output so we can see > > if there is any problem? > > > > > > > > - it seems there are two I2C busses in the machine. One is related to > > > the Intel video graphics subsystem (i801). The other seems to be linked > > > to the touchpad (i2c_designware_platform). I'm not sure that latest kmod > > > (i2c_designware_platform) is the right one to be used in this case, but > > > it appears to be working: > > > > Yeah, i2c_designware_platform is pretty common for Haswell processors. > > > > > > > > root@pace:/sys/bus/i2c/devices# ls -l /sys/bus/i2c/devices > > > total 0 > > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Out 18 17:26 i2c-0 -> > > > ../../../devices/pci0000:00/INT33C2:00/i2c-0 > > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Out 18 17:26 i2c-1 -> > > > ../../../devices/pci0000:00/INT33C3:00/i2c-1 > > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Out 18 17:26 i2c-2 -> > > > ../../../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/i2c-2 > > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Out 18 17:26 i2c-3 -> > > > ../../../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/i2c-3 > > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Out 18 17:26 i2c-4 -> > > > ../../../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/i2c-4 > > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Out 18 17:26 i2c-5 -> > > > ../../../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/i2c-5 > > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Out 18 17:26 i2c-6 -> > > > ../../../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/i2c-6 > > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Out 18 17:26 i2c-7 -> > > > ../../../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/i2c-7 > > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Out 18 17:26 i2c-8 -> > > > ../../../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/i2c-8 > > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Out 18 17:26 i2c-DLL0652:00 -> > > > ../../../devices/pci0000:00/INT33C3:00/i2c-1/i2c-DLL0652:00 > > > > This one is the touchpad. > > > > > > > > root@pace:/sys/bus/i2c/devices# lsmod | grep i2c > > > i2c_hid 10682 0 > > > hid 94632 3 i2c_hid,hid_generic,usbhid > > > i2c_dev 5739 0 > > > i2c_designware_platform 3189 0 > > > i2c_i801 13732 0 > > > i2c_designware_core 6045 1 i2c_designware_platform > > > i2c_algo_bit 5351 1 i915 > > > i2c_core 35216 11 > > > drm,i915,i2c_i801,i2c_dev,i2c_hid,i2c_designware_platform,drm_kms_helper,i2c_algo_bit,v4l2_common,synaptics_i2c,videodev > > > > > > - in the HID /sys directory, there are three devices. Two are related to > > > a keyboard/mouse USB adapter. The third seems to be the linked to the > > > touchpad: > > > > > > root@pace:/sys/bus/hid/devices# ls -l /sys/bus/hid/devices > > > total 0 > > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Out 28 22:40 0003:13BA:0017.004F -> > > > ../../../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.0/usb3/3-1/3-1.3/3-1.3:1.0/0003:13BA:0017.004F > > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Out 28 22:40 0003:13BA:0017.0050 -> > > > ../../../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.0/usb3/3-1/3-1.3/3-1.3:1.1/0003:13BA:0017.0050 > > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Out 28 22:40 0018:06CB:2985.0052 -> > > > ../../../devices/pci0000:00/INT33C3:00/i2c-1/i2c-DLL0652:00/0018:06CB:2985.0052 > > > > This is the HID over I2C touchpad. > > > > > > > > - when I load the kernel module i2c-hid.ko (with debug=1), I read this > > > in dmesg: > > > > > > [146172.568787] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: Fetching the HID descriptor > > > [146172.568791] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: __i2c_hid_command: cmd=20 00 > > > [146172.574806] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: HID Descriptor: 1e 00 00 01 85 > > > 00 21 00 24 00 20 00 25 00 17 00 22 00 23 00 cb 06 85 29 00 00 00 00 00 > > > 00 > > > [146172.574845] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: entering i2c_hid_parse > > > [146172.574847] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: i2c_hid_hwreset > > > [146172.574849] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: i2c_hid_set_power > > > [146172.574850] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: __i2c_hid_command: cmd=22 00 00 > > > 08 > > > [146172.575436] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: resetting... > > > [146172.575442] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: __i2c_hid_command: cmd=22 00 00 > > > 01 > > > [146172.576113] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: __i2c_hid_command: waiting... > > > [146172.577414] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: __i2c_hid_command: finished. > > > [146172.577417] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: asking HID report descriptor > > > [146172.577419] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: __i2c_hid_command: cmd=21 00 > > > [146172.581072] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: Report Descriptor: 05 01 09 02 > > > a1 01 85 01 09 01 a1 00 05 09 19 01 29 02 15 00 25 01 75 01 95 02 81 02 > > > 95 06 81 01 05 01 09 30 09 31 15 81 25 7f 75 08 95 02 81 06 c0 c0 06 00 > > > ff 09 01 a1 01 85 09 09 02 15 00 26 > > > [146172.581126] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: i2c_hid_set_power > > > [146172.581129] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: __i2c_hid_command: cmd=22 00 01 > > > 08 > > > > Everything is fine, this is the normal behavior while connecting a > > i2c_hid device. > > Normally, we should have then hid-rmi asking for more things and then > > it will eventually set up the input device. > > > > > > > > I am aware this information probably is not sufficient to draw any > > > conclusions, but I'd appreciate to hear from someone who knows i2c_hid > > > in detail what steps I should take next. For me the last command timed > > > out or got stuck, but I haven't checked the code to see if it's the > > > case. Anyway, if it was a timeout case, it should have something logged > > > after the time expired. > > > > There is no answer from the device when a SET_POWER is emitted. So > > this is not a timeout problem. > > > > If hid-rmi is compiled and is not taking the device, we have a big > > problem, but for now, the symptoms look like you do not have this > > driver compiled and hid-generic does not bind the device because it > > waits for hid-rmi to handle it. > > > > Well, I tried to insmod hid-rmi, and nothing special happened. Here is a > dmesg output (relevant lines): > > [158885.774386] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: Fetching the HID descriptor > [158885.774391] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: __i2c_hid_command: cmd=20 00 > [158885.785853] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: HID Descriptor: 1e 00 00 01 85 > 00 21 00 24 00 20 00 25 00 17 00 22 00 23 00 cb 06 85 29 00 00 00 00 00 > 00 > [158885.785924] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: entering i2c_hid_parse > [158885.785926] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: i2c_hid_hwreset > [158885.785927] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: i2c_hid_set_power > [158885.785928] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: __i2c_hid_command: cmd=22 00 00 > 08 > [158885.786494] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: resetting... > [158885.786497] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: __i2c_hid_command: cmd=22 00 00 > 01 > [158885.787285] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: __i2c_hid_command: waiting... > [158885.788496] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: __i2c_hid_command: finished. > [158885.788499] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: asking HID report descriptor > [158885.788501] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: __i2c_hid_command: cmd=21 00 > [158885.792194] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: Report Descriptor: 05 01 09 02 > a1 01 85 01 09 01 a1 00 05 09 19 01 29 02 15 00 25 01 75 01 95 02 81 02 > 95 06 81 01 05 01 09 30 09 31 15 81 25 7f 75 08 95 02 81 06 c0 c0 06 00 > ff 09 01 a1 01 85 09 09 02 15 00 26 > [158885.792252] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: i2c_hid_set_power > [158885.792254] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: __i2c_hid_command: cmd=22 00 01 > 08 > > I included lines like: > > printk(KERN_ERR "hid_rmi_probe(): called\n"); > printk(KERN_ERR "hid_rmi_probe(): ret=0\n"); > > in the beginning and at the end of the routine rmi_probe(). These lines > didn't > appear in dmesg (those pictured above). I don't know if "probe" is to be > called > in this case, or not. Is there any other condition to make hid-rmi be > "instantiated", > I mean, other kmod to be loaded, or a special ioctl() coming to the hid > from userland, > or even echoing something to the "bind" file at /sys/...? > > Well, here's the "directory" /sys/bus/hid/drivers/hid-rmi: > > root@pace:/sys/bus/hid/drivers/hid-rmi# ls -l > /sys/bus/hid/drivers/hid-rmi/ > total 0 > --w------- 1 root root 4096 Out 30 08:03 bind > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Out 30 08:03 module -> > ../../../../module/hid_rmi > --w------- 1 root root 4096 Out 30 08:03 new_id > --w------- 1 root root 4096 Out 30 07:48 uevent > --w------- 1 root root 4096 Out 30 08:03 unbind > > One thing I didn't still did is to reboot the machine. I found it was > not the case, > but this type of action use to work a lot in IT/IS, right? :-) > > > > > > > I have some programming skills, and so if it's the case of applying any > > > patches, or recompiling the kernel or any subsystem to make tests, I'm > > > up to. > > > > Cool, thanks. > > > > Cheers, > > Benjamin > > Many thanks, > > Luiz -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-input" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html