Re: About Dell Inspiron 3442 touchpad

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Hi Benjamin,

Thanks for the assistance and quick reply.

On Tue, Oct 28, 2014, at 23:40, Benjamin Tissoires wrote:
> Hi Luiz,
> 
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 9:00 PM, Luiz Carlos Ramos
> <lramos.prof@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'm trying to make a touchpad from a Dell Inspiron I14-3442 laptop work.
> >
> > Some details:
> >
> > - I'm using plain Slackware64 14.1, but raised the kernel to 3.16.3 for
> > tests
> >
> > - xinput ignores the touchpad; it shows only a USB mouse/keyboard
> > adapter and the laptop's keyboard:
> >
> > root@pace:/sys/bus/hid/devices# xinput
> >  Virtual core pointer                            id=2    [master pointer
> >   (3)]
> >      Virtual core XTEST pointer                      id=4    [slave
> >      pointer  (2)]
> >      Generic USB K/B                                 id=12   [slave
> >      pointer  (2)]
> >   Virtual core keyboard                           id=3    [master
> >   keyboard (2)]
> >       Virtual core XTEST keyboard                     id=5    [slave
> >       keyboard (3)]
> >       Power Button                                    id=6    [slave
> >       keyboard (3)]
> >       Video Bus                                       id=7    [slave
> >       keyboard (3)]
> >       Power Button                                    id=9    [slave
> >       keyboard (3)]
> >       Sleep Button                                    id=10   [slave
> >       keyboard (3)]
> >       Integrated_Webcam_HD                            id=13   [slave
> >       keyboard (3)]
> >       AT Translated Set 2 keyboard                    id=14   [slave
> >       keyboard (3)]
> >       Dell WMI hotkeys                                id=15   [slave
> >       keyboard (3)]
> >       Video Bus                                       id=8    [slave
> >       keyboard (3)]
> >       Generic USB K/B                                 id=11   [slave
> >       keyboard (3)]
> >
> > - it seems Ubuntu certified this machine (check
> > http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201402-14674/components/),
> > but it assumes the touchpad is PS/2. I haven't found it as a PS/2 thing,
> > even loading psmouse.ko, or doing other tricks
> >
> > - some articles lists some tips for making it work (like
> > http://askubuntu.com/questions/134627/how-do-i-get-the-touchpad-settings-working-on-a-dell-xps-13-ultrabook,
> > or https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1048314#c2), but I read
> > them carefully, made some tests, and they didn't work. One article says
> > I could blacklist i2c_hid or like in order to make the bring up the
> > touchpad in PS/2 mode, but I couldn't succeed doing so
> >
> > - at Dell's site, it is offered a driver for Ubuntu 12.04, but it's
> > almost obsolete. It seems to be just merged into the kernel
> >
> > - from Windows 8.1, which runs in the same machine (dual boot), I
> > concluded the proper way of making it work is to use HID over I2C. It
> > seems that there are two components loaded; one I2CHID, and a Synaptics
> > HID. This makes me hint it may be a Synaptics device
> 
> Well, if this is a Synaptics HID over I2C device, it should be handled
> by hid-rmi in recent kernels (or hid-multitouch but I would say
> hid-rmi in your case).
> Is the hid-rmi module loaded? Can we get a dmesg output so we can see
> if there is any problem?
> 
> >
> > - it seems there are two I2C busses in the machine. One is related to
> > the Intel video graphics subsystem (i801). The other seems to be linked
> > to the touchpad (i2c_designware_platform). I'm not sure that latest kmod
> > (i2c_designware_platform) is the right one to be used in this case, but
> > it appears to be working:
> 
> Yeah, i2c_designware_platform is pretty common for Haswell processors.
> 
> >
> > root@pace:/sys/bus/i2c/devices# ls -l /sys/bus/i2c/devices
> > total 0
> > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Out 18 17:26 i2c-0 ->
> > ../../../devices/pci0000:00/INT33C2:00/i2c-0
> > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Out 18 17:26 i2c-1 ->
> > ../../../devices/pci0000:00/INT33C3:00/i2c-1
> > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Out 18 17:26 i2c-2 ->
> > ../../../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/i2c-2
> > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Out 18 17:26 i2c-3 ->
> > ../../../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/i2c-3
> > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Out 18 17:26 i2c-4 ->
> > ../../../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/i2c-4
> > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Out 18 17:26 i2c-5 ->
> > ../../../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/i2c-5
> > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Out 18 17:26 i2c-6 ->
> > ../../../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/i2c-6
> > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Out 18 17:26 i2c-7 ->
> > ../../../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/i2c-7
> > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Out 18 17:26 i2c-8 ->
> > ../../../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/i2c-8
> > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Out 18 17:26 i2c-DLL0652:00 ->
> > ../../../devices/pci0000:00/INT33C3:00/i2c-1/i2c-DLL0652:00
> 
> This one is the touchpad.
> 
> >
> > root@pace:/sys/bus/i2c/devices# lsmod | grep i2c
> > i2c_hid                10682  0
> > hid                    94632  3 i2c_hid,hid_generic,usbhid
> > i2c_dev                 5739  0
> > i2c_designware_platform     3189  0
> > i2c_i801               13732  0
> > i2c_designware_core     6045  1 i2c_designware_platform
> > i2c_algo_bit            5351  1 i915
> > i2c_core               35216  11
> > drm,i915,i2c_i801,i2c_dev,i2c_hid,i2c_designware_platform,drm_kms_helper,i2c_algo_bit,v4l2_common,synaptics_i2c,videodev
> >
> > - in the HID /sys directory, there are three devices. Two are related to
> > a keyboard/mouse USB adapter. The third seems to be the linked to the
> > touchpad:
> >
> > root@pace:/sys/bus/hid/devices# ls -l /sys/bus/hid/devices
> > total 0
> > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Out 28 22:40 0003:13BA:0017.004F ->
> > ../../../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.0/usb3/3-1/3-1.3/3-1.3:1.0/0003:13BA:0017.004F
> > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Out 28 22:40 0003:13BA:0017.0050 ->
> > ../../../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.0/usb3/3-1/3-1.3/3-1.3:1.1/0003:13BA:0017.0050
> > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Out 28 22:40 0018:06CB:2985.0052 ->
> > ../../../devices/pci0000:00/INT33C3:00/i2c-1/i2c-DLL0652:00/0018:06CB:2985.0052
> 
> This is the HID over I2C touchpad.
> 
> >
> > - when I load the kernel module i2c-hid.ko (with debug=1), I read this
> > in dmesg:
> >
> > [146172.568787] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: Fetching the HID descriptor
> > [146172.568791] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: __i2c_hid_command: cmd=20 00
> > [146172.574806] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: HID Descriptor: 1e 00 00 01 85
> > 00 21 00 24 00 20 00 25 00 17 00 22 00 23 00 cb 06 85 29 00 00 00 00 00
> > 00
> > [146172.574845] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: entering i2c_hid_parse
> > [146172.574847] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: i2c_hid_hwreset
> > [146172.574849] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: i2c_hid_set_power
> > [146172.574850] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: __i2c_hid_command: cmd=22 00 00
> > 08
> > [146172.575436] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: resetting...
> > [146172.575442] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: __i2c_hid_command: cmd=22 00 00
> > 01
> > [146172.576113] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: __i2c_hid_command: waiting...
> > [146172.577414] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: __i2c_hid_command: finished.
> > [146172.577417] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: asking HID report descriptor
> > [146172.577419] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: __i2c_hid_command: cmd=21 00
> > [146172.581072] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: Report Descriptor: 05 01 09 02
> > a1 01 85 01 09 01 a1 00 05 09 19 01 29 02 15 00 25 01 75 01 95 02 81 02
> > 95 06 81 01 05 01 09 30 09 31 15 81 25 7f 75 08 95 02 81 06 c0 c0 06 00
> > ff 09 01 a1 01 85 09 09 02 15 00 26
> > [146172.581126] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: i2c_hid_set_power
> > [146172.581129] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: __i2c_hid_command: cmd=22 00 01
> > 08
> 
> Everything is fine, this is the normal behavior while connecting a
> i2c_hid device.
> Normally, we should have then hid-rmi asking for more things and then
> it will eventually set up the input device.
> 
> >
> > I am aware this information probably is not sufficient to draw any
> > conclusions, but I'd appreciate to hear from someone who knows i2c_hid
> > in detail what steps I should take next. For me the last command timed
> > out or got stuck, but I haven't checked the code to see if it's the
> > case. Anyway, if it was a timeout case, it should have something logged
> > after the time expired.
> 
> There is no answer from the device when a SET_POWER is emitted. So
> this is not a timeout problem.
> 
> If hid-rmi is compiled and is not taking the device, we have a big
> problem, but for now, the symptoms look like you do not have this
> driver compiled and hid-generic does not bind the device because it
> waits for hid-rmi to handle it.
> 

Well, I tried to insmod hid-rmi, and nothing special happened. Here is a
dmesg output (relevant lines):

[158885.774386] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: Fetching the HID descriptor
[158885.774391] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: __i2c_hid_command: cmd=20 00
[158885.785853] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: HID Descriptor: 1e 00 00 01 85
00 21 00 24 00 20 00 25 00 17 00 22 00 23 00 cb 06 85 29 00 00 00 00 00
00
[158885.785924] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: entering i2c_hid_parse
[158885.785926] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: i2c_hid_hwreset
[158885.785927] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: i2c_hid_set_power
[158885.785928] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: __i2c_hid_command: cmd=22 00 00
08
[158885.786494] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: resetting...
[158885.786497] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: __i2c_hid_command: cmd=22 00 00
01
[158885.787285] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: __i2c_hid_command: waiting...
[158885.788496] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: __i2c_hid_command: finished.
[158885.788499] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: asking HID report descriptor
[158885.788501] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: __i2c_hid_command: cmd=21 00
[158885.792194] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: Report Descriptor: 05 01 09 02
a1 01 85 01 09 01 a1 00 05 09 19 01 29 02 15 00 25 01 75 01 95 02 81 02
95 06 81 01 05 01 09 30 09 31 15 81 25 7f 75 08 95 02 81 06 c0 c0 06 00
ff 09 01 a1 01 85 09 09 02 15 00 26
[158885.792252] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: i2c_hid_set_power
[158885.792254] i2c_hid i2c-DLL0652:00: __i2c_hid_command: cmd=22 00 01
08

I included lines like:

printk(KERN_ERR "hid_rmi_probe(): called\n");
printk(KERN_ERR "hid_rmi_probe(): ret=0\n");

in the beginning and at the end of the routine rmi_probe(). These lines
didn't 
appear in dmesg (those pictured above). I don't know if "probe" is to be
called 
in this case, or not. Is there any other condition to make hid-rmi be
"instantiated",
I mean, other kmod to be loaded, or a special ioctl() coming to the hid
from userland,
or even echoing something to the "bind" file at /sys/...?

Well, here's the "directory" /sys/bus/hid/drivers/hid-rmi:

root@pace:/sys/bus/hid/drivers/hid-rmi# ls -l
/sys/bus/hid/drivers/hid-rmi/
total 0
--w------- 1 root root 4096 Out 30 08:03 bind
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root    0 Out 30 08:03 module ->
../../../../module/hid_rmi
--w------- 1 root root 4096 Out 30 08:03 new_id
--w------- 1 root root 4096 Out 30 07:48 uevent
--w------- 1 root root 4096 Out 30 08:03 unbind

One thing I didn't still did is to reboot the machine. I found it was
not the case,
but this type of action use to work a lot in IT/IS, right? :-) 

> >
> > I have some programming skills, and so if it's the case of applying any
> > patches, or recompiling the kernel or any subsystem to make tests, I'm
> > up to.
> 
> Cool, thanks.
> 
> Cheers,
> Benjamin

Many thanks, 

Luiz
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