Re: New TRIM/UNMAP tree published (2009-05-02)

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Boaz Harrosh wrote:
On 05/03/2009 06:42 PM, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 06:02:51PM +0300, Boaz Harrosh wrote:
I agree with Hugh. The allocation is done at, too-low in the food chain.
(And that free of buffer at upper layer allocated by lower layer).

I think you need to separate the: "does lld need buffer, what size"
from the "here is buffer prepare", so upper layer that can sleep does
sleep.
So you want two function pointers in the request queue relating to discard?


OK I don't know what I want, I guess. ;-)

I'm not a block-device export but from the small osdblk device I maintain
it looks like osdblk_prepare_flush which is set into:
    blk_queue_ordered(q, QUEUE_ORDERED_DRAIN_FLUSH, osdblk_prepare_flush);

does some internal structure setup, but the actual flush command is only executed
later in the global osdblk_rq_fn which is set into:
    blk_init_queue(osdblk_rq_fn, &osdev->lock);

But I'm not even sure that prepare_flush is called in a better context then
queue_fn, and what does it means to let block devices take care of another
new command type at queue_fn.

I guess it comes back to Jeff Garzik's comment about not having a central
place to ask the request what we need to do.

But I do hate that allocation is done by driver and free by mid-layer,
so yes two vectors, request_queue is allocated once per device it's not
that bad. And later when Jeff's comment is addressed it can be removed.

May I presume you are referring to the following osdblk.c comment?

                /* deduce our operation (read, write, flush) */
                /* I wish the block layer simplified
		 * cmd_type/cmd_flags/cmd[]
                 * into a clearly defined set of RPC commands:
                 * read, write, flush, scsi command, power mgmt req,
                 * driver-specific, etc.
                 */

Yes, the task of figuring out -what to do- in the queue's request function is quite complex, and discard makes it even more so.

The API makes life difficult -- you have to pass temporary info to yourself in ->prepare_flush_fn() and ->prepare_discard_fn(), and the overall sum is a bewildering collection of opcodes, flags, and internal driver notes to itself.

Add to this yet another prep function, ->prep_rq_fn()

It definitely sucks, especially with regards to failed atomic allocations... but I think fixing this quite a big more than Matthew probably willing to tackle ;-)

My ideal block layer interface would be a lot more opcode-based, e.g.

(1) create REQ_TYPE_DISCARD

(2) determine at init if queue (a) supports explicit DISCARD and/or (b) supports DISCARD flag passed with READ or WRITE

(3) when creating a discard request, use block helpers w/ queue-specific knowledge to create either
	(a) one request, REQ_TYPE_FS, with discard flag or
	(b) two requests, REQ_TYPE_FS followed by REQ_TYPE_DISCARD

(4) blkdev_issue_discard() would function like an empty barrier, and unconditionally create REQ_TYPE_DISCARD.


This type of setup would require NO prepare_discard command, as all knowledge would be passed directly to ->prep_rq_fn() and ->request_fn()


And to tangent a bit... I feel barriers should be handled in exactly the same way. Create REQ_TYPE_FLUSH, which would be issued for above examples #2a and #4, if the queue is setup that way.

All this MINIMIZES the amount of information a driver must "pass to itself", by utilizing existing ->prep_fn_rq() and ->request_fn() pathways.

	Jeff



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