On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 12:50:08PM -0500, Mark Lord wrote: > Ingo Molnar wrote: >> >> for example git-bisect was godsent. I remember that years ago bisection of >> a bug was a very laborous task so that it was only used as a final, >> last-ditch approach for really nasty bugs. Today we can autonomouly bisect >> build bugs via a simple shell command around "git-bisect run", without any >> human interaction! This freed up testing resources > .. > > It's only a godsend for the few people who happen to be kernel developers It's also godsend for users who want a regression they observe fixed. If you can tell which patch broke it you often turned a very hard to debug problem into a relatively easy fixable problem. As an example, [1] was an issue a normal user could discover, and bisecting made the difference between "nearly undebuggable" and "easily fixable by revertng a commit". > and who happen to already use git. As already said in thread, the required instructions for bisecting are relatively short and simple (assuming the user can build his own kernels). > It's a 540MByte download over a slow link for everyone else. Not everyone has a slow connection. For me, the speed of cloning a tree from git.kernel.org is completely cpu bound and limited by the speed of the 1.8 Ghz Athlon in my computer... But if there is a real life problem like people with extremely slow and expensive internet connections not being able to bisect bugs these problems should be named and fixed (e.g. by sending CDs). > -ml cu Adrian [1] http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/11/12/154 -- "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days. "Only a promise," Lao Er said. Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-ide" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html