Jens Axboe wrote: > On Mon, Apr 30 2007, Benny Halevy wrote: >> Jens Axboe wrote: >>> On Sun, Apr 29 2007, James Bottomley wrote: >>>> On Sun, 2007-04-29 at 18:48 +0300, Boaz Harrosh wrote: >>>>> FUJITA Tomonori wrote: >>>>>> From: Boaz Harrosh <bharrosh@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> Subject: [PATCH 4/4] bidi support: bidirectional request >>>>>> Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 20:33:28 +0300 >>>>>> >>>>>>> diff --git a/include/linux/blkdev.h b/include/linux/blkdev.h >>>>>>> index 645d24b..16a02ee 100644 >>>>>>> --- a/include/linux/blkdev.h >>>>>>> +++ b/include/linux/blkdev.h >>>>>>> @@ -322,6 +322,7 @@ struct request { >>>>>>> void *end_io_data; >>>>>>> >>>>>>> struct request_io_part uni; >>>>>>> + struct request_io_part bidi_read; >>>>>>> }; >>>>>> Would be more straightforward to have: >>>>>> >>>>>> struct request_io_part in; >>>>>> struct request_io_part out; >>>>>> >>>>> Yes I wish I could do that. For bidi supporting drivers this is the most logical. >>>>> But for the 99.9% of uni-directional drivers, calling rq_uni(), and being some what on >>>>> the hotish paths, this means we will need a pointer to a uni request_io_part. >>>>> This is bad because: >>>>> 1st- There is no defined stage in a request life where to definitely set that pointer, >>>>> specially in the preparation stages. >>>>> 2nd- hacks like scsi_error.c/scsi_send_eh_cmnd() will not work at all. Now this is a >>>>> very bad spot already, and I have a short term fix for it in the SCSI-bidi patches >>>>> (not sent yet) but a more long term solution is needed. Once such hacks are >>>>> cleaned up we can do what you say. This is exactly why I use the access functions >>>>> rq_uni/rq_io/rq_in/rq_out and not open code access. >>>> I'm still not really convinced about this approach. The primary job of >>>> the block layer is to manage and merge READ and WRITE requests. It >>>> serves a beautiful secondary function of queueing for arbitrary requests >>>> it doesn't understand (REQ_TYPE_BLOCK_PC or REQ_TYPE_SPECIAL ... or >>>> indeed any non REQ_TYPE_FS). >>>> >>>> bidirectional requests fall into the latter category (there's nothing >>>> really we can do to merge them ... they're just transported by the block >>>> layer). The only unusual feature is that they carry two bios. I think >>>> the drivers that actually support bidirectional will be a rarity, so it >>>> might even be advisable to add it to the queue capability (refuse >>>> bidirectional requests at the top rather than perturbing all the drivers >>>> to process them). >>>> >>>> So, what about REQ_TYPE_BIDIRECTIONAL rather than REQ_BIDI? That will >>>> remove it from the standard path and put it on the special command type >>>> path where we can process it specially. Additionally, if you take this >>>> approach, you can probably simply chain the second bio through >>>> req->special as an additional request in the stream. The only thing >>>> that would then need modification would be the dequeue of the block >>>> driver (it would have to dequeue both requests and prepare them) and >>>> that needs to be done only for drivers handling bidirectional requests. >>> I agree, I'm really not crazy about shuffling the entire request setup >>> around just for something as exotic as bidirection commands. How about >>> just keeping it simple - have a second request linked off the first one >>> for the second data phase? So keep it completely seperate, not just >>> overload ->special for 2nd bio list. >>> >>> So basically just add a struct request pointer, so you can do rq = >>> rq->next_rq or something for the next data phase. I bet this would be a >>> LOT less invasive as well, and we can get by with a few helpers to >>> support it. >>> >>> And it should definitely be a request type. >>> >> I'm a bit confused since what you both suggest is very similar to what we've >> proposed back in October 2006 and the impression we got was that it will be >> better to support bidirectional block requests natively (yet to be honest, >> James, you wanted a linked request all along). > > It still has to be implemented natively at the block layer, just > differently like described above. So instead of messing all over the > block layer adding rq_uni() stuff, just add that struct request pointer > to the request structure for the 2nd data phase. You can relatively easy > then modify the block layer helpers to support mapping and setup of such > requests. > >> Before we go on that route again, how do you see the support for bidi >> at the scsi mid-layer done? Again, we prefer to support that officially >> using two struct scsi_cmnd_buff instances in struct scsi_cmnd and not as >> a one-off feature, using special-purpose state and logic (e.g. a linked >> struct scsi_cmd for the bidi_read sg list). > > The SCSI part is up to James, that can be done as either inside a single > scsi command, or as linked scsi commands as well. I don't care too much > about that bit, just the block layer parts :-). And the proposed block > layer design can be used both ways by the scsi layer. Linked SCSI commands have been obsolete since SPC-4 rev 6 (18 July 2006) after proposal 06-259r1 was accepted. That proposal starts: "The reasons for linked commands have been overtaken by time and events." I haven't see anyone mourning their demise on the t10 reflector. Mapping two requests to one bidi SCSI command might make error handling more of a challenge. 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