On Tue, 30 May 2006, Mark Lord wrote: > > Not in a suspend/resume capable notebook, though. > > I don't know of *any* notebook drives that take longer > than perhaps five seconds to spin-up and accept commands. > Such a slow drive wouldn't really be tolerated by end-users, > which is why they don't exist. Indeed. In fact, I'd be surprised to see it in a desktop too. At least at one point, in order to get a M$ hw qualification (whatever it's called - but every single hw manufacturer wants it, because some vendors won't use your hardware if you don't have it), a laptop needed to boot up in less than 30 seconds or something. And that wasn't the disk spin-up time. That was the time until the Windows desktop was visible. Desktops could do a bit longer, and I think servers didn't have any time limits, but the point is that selling a disk that takes a long time to start working is actually not that easy. The market that has accepted slow bootup times is historically the server market (don't ask me why - you'd think that with five-nines uptime guarantees you'd want fast bootup), and so you'll find large SCSI disks in particular with long spin-up times. In the laptop and desktop space I'd be very surprised to see anythign longer than a few seconds. Linus - : send the line "unsubscribe linux-ide" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html