Re: [PATCH v4 10/12] ptrace: Don't change __state
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- To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 10/12] ptrace: Don't change __state
- From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 10 May 2022 17:34:53 +0200
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On 05/10, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>
> > But I still think that a lockless
> >
> > if (!(task->jobctl & JOBCTL_PTRACE_FROZEN))
> > return;
> >
> > check at the start of ptrace_unfreeze_traced() makes sense to avoid
> > lock_task_sighand() if possible.
> >
> > And ptrace_resume() can probably clear JOBCTL_PTRACE_FROZEN along with
> > JOBCTL_TRACED to make this optimization work better. The same for
> > ptrace_signal_wake_up().
>
> What do you have that suggests that taking siglock there is a problem?
Not necessarily a problem, but this optimization is free. If the tracee
was resumed, it can compete for siglock with debugger.
> What you propose will definitely work as an incremental change, and
> in an incremental change we can explain why doing the stupid simple
> thing is not good enough.
OK.
Oleg.
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