On Thursday 2010-07-22 17:47, Linus Torvalds wrote: >On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Volker Lendecke ><Volker.Lendecke@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> The nice thing about this is also that if this is supposed >> to be fully usable for Windows clients, the birthtime needs >> to be changeable. That's what NTFS semantics gives you, thus >> Windows clients tend to require it. > >Ok. So it's not really a creation date, exactly the same way ctime >isn't at all a creation date. [...] >Tell me why we shouldn't just do this right? Nobody said the c in ctime stands for creation. It stands for change (you probably knew that). $ touch this $ stat this File: `this' Size: 0 Blocks: 0 IO Block: 4096 regular empty file Device: fh/15d Inode: 106777647 Links: 1 Access: (0644/-rw-r--r--) Uid: (25121/ jengelh) Gid: ( 100/ users) Access: 2010-07-22 18:18:52.665480058 +0200 Modify: 2010-07-22 18:18:52.665480058 +0200 Change: 2010-07-22 18:18:52.665480058 +0200 # Only change inode, not content $ chmod 600 this $ stat this File: `this' Size: 0 Blocks: 0 IO Block: 4096 regular empty file Device: fh/15d Inode: 106777647 Links: 1 Access: (0600/-rw-------) Uid: (25121/ jengelh) Gid: ( 100/ users) Access: 2010-07-22 18:18:52.665480058 +0200 Modify: 2010-07-22 18:18:52.665480058 +0200 Change: 2010-07-22 18:18:58.533436339 +0200 (Solaris exhibits the very same kind of behavior.) -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-fsdevel" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
