On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 07:06:58 AM +0300, Amir Goldstein wrote: > On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 5:11 AM Darrick J. Wong <djwong@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 10:46:32AM +0300, Amir Goldstein wrote: >> > On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 7:46 AM Darrick J. Wong <djwong@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> > > >> > > On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 03:18:05PM +0300, Amir Goldstein wrote: >> > > > On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 10:49 PM Darrick J. Wong <djwong@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> > ... >> > > > Darrick, >> > > > >> > > > Quick question. >> > > > You indicated that you would like to discuss the topics: >> > > > Atomic file contents exchange >> > > > Atomic directio writes >> > > >> > > This one ^^^^^^^^ topic should still get its own session, ideally with >> > > Martin Petersen and John Garry running it. A few cloud vendors' >> > > software defined storage stacks can support multi-lba atomic writes, and >> > > some database software could take advantage of that to reduce nested WAL >> > > overhead. >> > > >> > >> > CC Martin. >> > If you want to lead this session, please schedule it. >> > >> > > > Are those intended to be in a separate session from online fsck? >> > > > Both in the same session? >> > > > >> > > > I know you posted patches for FIEXCHANGE_RANGE [1], >> > > > but they were hiding inside a huge DELUGE and people >> > > > were on New Years holidays, so nobody commented. >> > > >> > > After 3 years of sparse review comments, I decided to withdraw >> > > FIEXCHANGE_RANGE from general consideration after realizing that very >> > > few filesystems actually have the infrastructure to support atomic file >> > > contents exchange, hence there's little to be gained from undertaking >> > > fsdevel bikeshedding. >> > > >> > > > Perhaps you should consider posting an uptodate >> > > > topic suggestion to let people have an opportunity to >> > > > start a discussion before LSFMM. >> > > >> > > TBH, most of my fs complaints these days are managerial problems (Are we >> > > spending too much time on LTS? How on earth do we prioritize projects >> > > with all these drive by bots?? Why can't we support large engineering >> > > efforts better???) than technical. >> > >> > I penciled one session for "FS stable backporting (and other LTS woes)". >> > I made it a cross FS/IO session so we can have this session in the big room >> > and you are welcome to pull this discussion to any direction you want. >> >> Ok, thank you. Hopefully we can get all the folks who do backports into >> this one. That might be a big ask for Chandan, depending on when you >> schedule it. >> >> (Unless it's schedule for 7pm :P) >> > > Oh thanks for reminding me! > I moved it to Wed 9am, so it is more convenient for Chandan. This maps to 9:30 AM for me. Thanks for selecting a time which is convenient for me. -- chandan