On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 7:46 AM Darrick J. Wong <djwong@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 03:18:05PM +0300, Amir Goldstein wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 10:49 PM Darrick J. Wong <djwong@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: ... > > Darrick, > > > > Quick question. > > You indicated that you would like to discuss the topics: > > Atomic file contents exchange > > Atomic directio writes > > This one ^^^^^^^^ topic should still get its own session, ideally with > Martin Petersen and John Garry running it. A few cloud vendors' > software defined storage stacks can support multi-lba atomic writes, and > some database software could take advantage of that to reduce nested WAL > overhead. > CC Martin. If you want to lead this session, please schedule it. > > Are those intended to be in a separate session from online fsck? > > Both in the same session? > > > > I know you posted patches for FIEXCHANGE_RANGE [1], > > but they were hiding inside a huge DELUGE and people > > were on New Years holidays, so nobody commented. > > After 3 years of sparse review comments, I decided to withdraw > FIEXCHANGE_RANGE from general consideration after realizing that very > few filesystems actually have the infrastructure to support atomic file > contents exchange, hence there's little to be gained from undertaking > fsdevel bikeshedding. > > > Perhaps you should consider posting an uptodate > > topic suggestion to let people have an opportunity to > > start a discussion before LSFMM. > > TBH, most of my fs complaints these days are managerial problems (Are we > spending too much time on LTS? How on earth do we prioritize projects > with all these drive by bots?? Why can't we support large engineering > efforts better???) than technical. I penciled one session for "FS stable backporting (and other LTS woes)". I made it a cross FS/IO session so we can have this session in the big room and you are welcome to pull this discussion to any direction you want. > > (I /am/ willing to have a "Online fs metadata reconstruction: How does > it work, and can I have some of what you're smoking?" BOF tho) > I penciled a session for this one already. Maybe it would be interesting for the crowd to hear some about "behind the scenes" - how hard it was and still is to pull off an engineering project of this scale - lessons learned, things that you might have done differently. Cheers, Amir.
