In message <20081019195409.GW6792@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Georg Acher wrote: hi >On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 06:42:08AM +0100, Darron Broad wrote: ><cx24116> >> The trouble there is that the scaling for the cx24116 already works >> from an end-user perspective. The value derived in the code is >> a possible maximum of 160 from the chip. REELBOX decided on 176 >> which may be more accurate. > >The reelbox code was just a heuristic approach to scale the value so that >less than 30-40% is where the trouble starts... I've more or less matched it >to femon's colors. There was no intention to indicate dBs, as end users >don't understand dBs anyway ;-) All sat receivers I see just scale to fit. We can read lots of forum posts where people exchange % readings for sats :-) >The docs for the 24116 say that the snr is measured in 0.1dB steps. The >absolute range of registers a3:d5 is 0 to 300, so full scale is 30dB. I >doubt we will see the 30dB in a real-world setup... Okay, so we know the step size of 0.1 per bit and that's measured within a range of 0 to 300 but that doesn't actually say what it's value is? Ie, is 50=5dB or something else? All the graphs I see for QPSK and 8PSK in use in the real-world suggest the theoretical limit of esn0 is a lot less than that available range. I don't know what is the accepted error rate to set this limit. Perhaps someone who has authority on this subject can chime in? On the cx24116 testing observed that a register max of 160 from QPSK gave good approximation to that given by regular sat-kit sitting around 100%. If that really means 16dB then it doesn't look right compared to the graphs I see, what's wrong here? >The signal strength in 9e/9d is the value of the AGC voltage. Register da >seems to contain the estimated power level (-25 to -70dBm), but there's no >further information about that (step size etc). I guess the firmware derives >it from the AGC settings. Okay. All that's done in cx24116.c is take that val and invert it, which is enough I suppose. cya! -- // / {:)==={ Darron Broad <darron@xxxxxxxx> \\ \ _______________________________________________ linux-dvb mailing list linux-dvb@xxxxxxxxxxx http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb