On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Thu, 25 Sep 2008, Manu Abraham wrote: > >> A discussion between people who were already decided what to state >> beforehand, i must say. > > Not true at all. > > Only 3 persons were Americans. Yet, 2 of them living at the oposite coast > of US. So, even for they, a long trip (5 hours of time fuse). > > All the others there came from other continents: Europe, South America, > Asia. On most cases, people took 2 days to arrive there, and 2 other days > to return back home, for a 2,5 day meeting. > > Some of them even payed the expenses from their own pockets. > > We all suffered a lot from Jet Leg effects, geting 5 or more hours of > difference at the time fuse. > > We all now have a big list of pending work that accumulated due to the 1 > week spent with the trips. > > People woudln't do at all such big efforts just to say: "me too", or to do > some sort of political arrangement. If there was a previous decision, it > would be a way easy to announce it via email. > this is not relevant sorry. I represent EETI who also works on multiple standards and USB solutions for it I haven't seen a single move from you in order to get our project included rather than that you copied code and tried to move people against it. Even though it has been stated out that it will be pushed from our side. Still 90% of our code is still not merged for various reasons (which basically has nothing to do with you). And also the contributing community is bigger than what you tried to achieve in the back of us. Linus made a good point, as far as I'd say let people contribute and don't force them to run your game. This already led to that stupid userspace interface which I've done in the past (sure I acknowlidged that it's bad and shouldn't be in the kernel and I won't do that again). The other thread "[RFC] Let the future decide between the two" points out merging both APIs which would lead to immediate support of more than 25 new devices. If there would be a vote for that I'd go for that. I'm a rather direct person if it comes to that we don't need another monopoly here. The multiproto API has exist since years now and userspace applications also support it numerous howtos are available on the web how to use it already. http://linuxtv.org/pipermail/linux-dvb/2008-September/029236.html to make it short I seriously vote for both. best regards, Markus > People went there because: > - They want a better future for video input infrastructure; > - They think that people make difference; > - They want to solve pending things; > - They believe that being together is the way for fixing social > issues at the community. > > So, all people there put a lot of resources for what they believe > it is the right way to do. Please respect. > > I understand that you are unhappy with the results of the vote, but it > was a fair decision. > > Cheers, > Mauro. > > _______________________________________________ > linux-dvb mailing list > linux-dvb@xxxxxxxxxxx > http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb > _______________________________________________ linux-dvb mailing list linux-dvb@xxxxxxxxxxx http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb