Am Sonntag, den 14.09.2008, 22:08 +0200 schrieb Christophe Thommeret:> Le Sunday 14 September 2008 20:51:05 Manu Abraham, vous avez écrit :> > Steven Toth wrote:> > > Markus Rechberger wrote:> > >> On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 1:31 AM, Manu Abraham <abraham.manu@xxxxxxxxx>> > >>> > >> wrote:> > >>> Markus Rechberger wrote:> > >>>> On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 12:46 AM, Manu Abraham> > >>>>> > >>>> <abraham.manu@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:> > >>>>> Markus Rechberger wrote:> > >>>>>> How many devices are currently supported by the multiproto API> > >>>>>> compared with the s2 tree?> > >>>>>> > >>>>> The initial set of DVB-S2 multistandard devices supported by the> > >>>>> multiproto tree is follows. This is just the stb0899 based dvb-s2> > >>>>> driver> > >>>>> alone. There are more additions by 2 more modules (not devices),> > >>>>> but for> > >>>>> the simple comparison here is the quick list of them, for which> > >>>>> some of> > >>>>> the manufacturers have shown support in some way. (There has been> > >>>>> quite> > >>>>> some contributions from the community as well.):> > >>>>>> > >>>>> (Also to be noted is that, some BSD chaps also have shown interest in> > >>>>> the same)> > >>>>> > >>>> they're heavy into moving the whole framework over as far as I've seen> > >>>> yes, also including yet unmerged drivers.> > >>>> > >>> Using the same interface, the same applications will work there as well> > >>> which is a bonus, but isn't the existing user interface GPL ? (A bit> > >>> confused on that aspect)> > >>>> > >>>>> * STB0899 based> > >>>>>> > >>>>> Anubis> > >>>>> Typhoon DVB-S2 PCI> > >>>>>> > >>>>> Azurewave/Twinhan> > >>>>> VP-1041> > >>>>> VP-7050> > >>>>>> > >>>>> Digital Now> > >>>>> AD SP400> > >>>>> AD SB300> > >>>>>> > >>>>> KNC1> > >>>>> TV Station DVB-S2> > >>>>> TV Station DVB-S2 Plus> > >>>>>> > >>>>> Pinnacle> > >>>>> PCTV Sat HDTV Pro USB 452e> > >>>>>> > >>>>> Satelco> > >>>>> TV Station DVB-S2> > >>>>> Easywatch HDTV USB CI> > >>>>> Easywatch HDTV PCI> > >>>>>> > >>>>> Technisat> > >>>>> Skystar HD> > >>>>> Skystar HD2> > >>>>> Skystar USB2 HDCI> > >>>>>> > >>>>> Technotrend> > >>>>> TT S2 3200> > >>>>> TT S2 3600> > >>>>> TT S2 3650> > >>>>>> > >>>>> Terratec> > >>>>> Cinergy S2 PCI HD> > >>>>> Cinergy S2 PCI HDCI> > >>>>> > >>>> those are pullable now against the current tree?> > >>>> > >>> These devices, depend upon the DVB API update without which it wouldn't> > >>> work as they depend heavily on the DVB API framework. Without the> > >>> updated framework, it doesn't make any sense to pull them: they won't> > >>> even compile. The last but not least reason is that, the stb0899 driver> > >>> is a DVB-S2 multistandard device which requires DVB-S2/DSS support> > >>> additionally.> > >>> > >> so the framework is available, and the drivers could be pushed in> > >> right afterwards, I wonder> > >> who is willing to port those drivers to the other API (including> > >> testing).> > >> > > Me. I'll port the 3200 cards and their derivatives, including the 6100> > > and the 0899. I've already said I'd do that.... but it's manu's code and> > > he retains all rights. He gets to decide first.> >> > The STB0899 based devices are much different from the crappy handicapped> > Hauppauge S2 cards and hence the API that you work upon is quite limited> > to what you see with regards to the Hauppauge (CX24116 based) cards.> >> > Even the bare specifications from Conexant point to a handicapped DVB-S2> > demodulator.> >> > Attempts to do so, will break those devices at least for most of the> > features and more yet to come. The DVB-S2 transport is a bit more> > advanced delivery system than what your API based on the CX24116> > demodulator.> >> > At least it will be great for Hauppauge as you can point to people that> > Hauppauge hardware is much better, for the marketing aspects as you have> > done in the past on IRC lists.> >> > Very good marketing strategy, Steven keep it up, you have earned more> > sales for the Hauppauge cards ...> > <claps hands>> >> > >> It's not going to happen any time soon I guess, if there's not an> > >> agreement with Manu's> > >> work. Dumping this code would show another step of ignorance and> > >> selfishness against the> > >> people who worked on it.> > >> > > The demod/tuners drivers would be merged with S2API within a few days. I> > > have a TT-3200 here. I'd have to re-write various things, and change the> > > demod API a little. but I'm prepared to do that.> >> > Just having a TT 3200 won't help working on the STB0899. Almost everyone> > who has a STB0899 based knows that, except you.> >> > No need for you to break the compliant devices in favour of your> > mediocre cards. As i wrote just above, the STB0899 is not the only one> > device using the said features. Also i can guarantee that the CX24116> > (HVR4000) is the most handicapped DVB-S2 device that you are basing the> > DVB-S2 API on: and i can guarantee that what you do will be just be> > broken as you have done for other devices in the past.> >> > Also i do not understand, why you have to make a lot of noise to port> > the STB0899 drivers to your crap, when all your cards work as expected> > by you with the multiproto tree. I don't see any reason why the STB0899> > has to be ported to the handicapped API of yours, handicapping the> > STB0899 based devices.> > Sounds like Sarah "pitbull" Palin's sentences :) To make it short. I would not ever go out with guys like Manu and Markus again and from methey do not have a single line of code legally. 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