Le Sunday 14 September 2008 20:51:05 Manu Abraham, vous avez écrit : > Steven Toth wrote: > > Markus Rechberger wrote: > >> On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 1:31 AM, Manu Abraham <abraham.manu@xxxxxxxxx> > >> > >> wrote: > >>> Markus Rechberger wrote: > >>>> On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 12:46 AM, Manu Abraham > >>>> > >>>> <abraham.manu@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>>>> Markus Rechberger wrote: > >>>>>> How many devices are currently supported by the multiproto API > >>>>>> compared with the s2 tree? > >>>>> > >>>>> The initial set of DVB-S2 multistandard devices supported by the > >>>>> multiproto tree is follows. This is just the stb0899 based dvb-s2 > >>>>> driver > >>>>> alone. There are more additions by 2 more modules (not devices), > >>>>> but for > >>>>> the simple comparison here is the quick list of them, for which > >>>>> some of > >>>>> the manufacturers have shown support in some way. (There has been > >>>>> quite > >>>>> some contributions from the community as well.): > >>>>> > >>>>> (Also to be noted is that, some BSD chaps also have shown interest in > >>>>> the same) > >>>> > >>>> they're heavy into moving the whole framework over as far as I've seen > >>>> yes, also including yet unmerged drivers. > >>> > >>> Using the same interface, the same applications will work there as well > >>> which is a bonus, but isn't the existing user interface GPL ? (A bit > >>> confused on that aspect) > >>> > >>>>> * STB0899 based > >>>>> > >>>>> Anubis > >>>>> Typhoon DVB-S2 PCI > >>>>> > >>>>> Azurewave/Twinhan > >>>>> VP-1041 > >>>>> VP-7050 > >>>>> > >>>>> Digital Now > >>>>> AD SP400 > >>>>> AD SB300 > >>>>> > >>>>> KNC1 > >>>>> TV Station DVB-S2 > >>>>> TV Station DVB-S2 Plus > >>>>> > >>>>> Pinnacle > >>>>> PCTV Sat HDTV Pro USB 452e > >>>>> > >>>>> Satelco > >>>>> TV Station DVB-S2 > >>>>> Easywatch HDTV USB CI > >>>>> Easywatch HDTV PCI > >>>>> > >>>>> Technisat > >>>>> Skystar HD > >>>>> Skystar HD2 > >>>>> Skystar USB2 HDCI > >>>>> > >>>>> Technotrend > >>>>> TT S2 3200 > >>>>> TT S2 3600 > >>>>> TT S2 3650 > >>>>> > >>>>> Terratec > >>>>> Cinergy S2 PCI HD > >>>>> Cinergy S2 PCI HDCI > >>>> > >>>> those are pullable now against the current tree? > >>> > >>> These devices, depend upon the DVB API update without which it wouldn't > >>> work as they depend heavily on the DVB API framework. Without the > >>> updated framework, it doesn't make any sense to pull them: they won't > >>> even compile. The last but not least reason is that, the stb0899 driver > >>> is a DVB-S2 multistandard device which requires DVB-S2/DSS support > >>> additionally. > >> > >> so the framework is available, and the drivers could be pushed in > >> right afterwards, I wonder > >> who is willing to port those drivers to the other API (including > >> testing). > > > > Me. I'll port the 3200 cards and their derivatives, including the 6100 > > and the 0899. I've already said I'd do that.... but it's manu's code and > > he retains all rights. He gets to decide first. > > The STB0899 based devices are much different from the crappy handicapped > Hauppauge S2 cards and hence the API that you work upon is quite limited > to what you see with regards to the Hauppauge (CX24116 based) cards. > > Even the bare specifications from Conexant point to a handicapped DVB-S2 > demodulator. > > Attempts to do so, will break those devices at least for most of the > features and more yet to come. The DVB-S2 transport is a bit more > advanced delivery system than what your API based on the CX24116 > demodulator. > > At least it will be great for Hauppauge as you can point to people that > Hauppauge hardware is much better, for the marketing aspects as you have > done in the past on IRC lists. > > Very good marketing strategy, Steven keep it up, you have earned more > sales for the Hauppauge cards ... > <claps hands> > > >> It's not going to happen any time soon I guess, if there's not an > >> agreement with Manu's > >> work. Dumping this code would show another step of ignorance and > >> selfishness against the > >> people who worked on it. > > > > The demod/tuners drivers would be merged with S2API within a few days. I > > have a TT-3200 here. I'd have to re-write various things, and change the > > demod API a little. but I'm prepared to do that. > > Just having a TT 3200 won't help working on the STB0899. Almost everyone > who has a STB0899 based knows that, except you. > > No need for you to break the compliant devices in favour of your > mediocre cards. As i wrote just above, the STB0899 is not the only one > device using the said features. Also i can guarantee that the CX24116 > (HVR4000) is the most handicapped DVB-S2 device that you are basing the > DVB-S2 API on: and i can guarantee that what you do will be just be > broken as you have done for other devices in the past. > > Also i do not understand, why you have to make a lot of noise to port > the STB0899 drivers to your crap, when all your cards work as expected > by you with the multiproto tree. I don't see any reason why the STB0899 > has to be ported to the handicapped API of yours, handicapping the > STB0899 based devices. Sounds like Sarah "pitbull" Palin's sentences :) -- Christophe Thommeret _______________________________________________ linux-dvb mailing list linux-dvb@xxxxxxxxxxx http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb
