В сообщении от 29 August 2008 21:29:30 Steven Toth написал(а):> Regarding the multiproto situation:>> A number of developers, maintainers and users are unhappy with the> multiproto situation, actually they've been unhappy for a considerable> amount of time. The linuxtv developer community (to some degree) is seen> as a joke and a bunch in-fighting people. Multiproto is a great> demonstration of this. [1] The multiproto project has gone too far, for> too long and no longer has any credibility in the eyes of many people.>> In response, a number developers have agreed that "enough is enough" and> "it's time to take a new direction", for these developers the technical,> political and personal cost of multiproto is too high. These developers> have decided to make an announcement.>> Mauro Chehab, Michael Krufky, Patrick Boettcher and myself are hereby> announcing that we no longer support multiproto and are forming a> smaller dedicated project group which is focusing on adding next> generation S2/ISDB-T/DVB-H/DVB-T2/DVB-SH support to the kernel through a> different and simpler API.>> Basic patches and demo code for this API is currently available here.>> http://www.steventoth.net/linux/s2>> Does it even work? Yes> Is this new API complete? No> Is it perfect? No, we've already had feedback on structural and> namingspace changes that people would like to see.> Does it have bugs? Of course, we have a list of things we already know> we want to fix.>> but ...>> Is the new approach flexible? Yes, we're moving away from passing fixed> modulation structures into the kernel.> Can we add to it without breaking the future ABI when unforseen> modulations types occur? Yes> Does it preserve backwards compatibility? Yes> Importantly, is the overall direction correct? Yes> Does it impact existing frontend drivers? No.> What's the impact to dvb-core? Small.> What's the impact to application developers? None, unless an application> developer wants to support the new standards - binary compatibility!>> We want feedback and we want progress, we aim to achieve it.>> Importantly, this project group seeks your support.>> If you also feel frustrated by the multiproto situation and agree in> principle with this new approach, and the overall direction of the API> changes, then we welcome you and ask you to help us.>> Growing the list of supporting names by 100%, and allowing us to publish> your name on the public mailing list, would show the non-maintainer> development community that we recognize the problem and we're taking> steps to correct the problem. We want to make LinuxTV a perfect platform> for S2, ISDB-T and other advanced modulation types, without using the> multiproto patches.>> We're not asking you for technical help, although we'd like that :) ,> we're just asking for your encouragement to move away from multiproto.>> If you feel that you want to support our movement then please help us by> acking this email.>> Regards - Steve, Mike, Patrick and Mauro.>> Acked-by: Patrick Boettcher <pb@xxxxxxxxxxx>> Acked-by: Michael Krufky <mkrufky@xxxxxxxxxxx>> Acked-by: Steven Toth <stoth@xxxxxxxxxxx>> Acked-by: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>> * [1]. Rather than point out the issues with multiproto here, take a> look at the patches and/or read the comments on the mailing lists.>> _______________________________________________> linux-dvb mailing list> linux-dvb@xxxxxxxxxxx> http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb I am not much a letter writer.So one way or another, DVB-S2 needs to be included.Who makes first technical step? I mean working S2 driver in v4l-dvb tree.I truly want to see that! I see the problem like that - I have a card, I want it to work under Linux,I don't see any reasons to wait for someone to make a driver (it is lasting for years, you know), I make it myself. Any political reasons? So I am not asking you for technical help, although I'd like that too :) BRIgor _______________________________________________linux-dvb mailing listlinux-dvb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb
