On Fri, 2008-08-29 at 14:29 -0400, Steven Toth wrote: > Regarding the multiproto situation: > > A number of developers, maintainers and users are unhappy with the > multiproto situation, actually they've been unhappy for a considerable > amount of time. The linuxtv developer community (to some degree) is seen > as a joke and a bunch in-fighting people. Multiproto is a great > demonstration of this. [1] The multiproto project has gone too far, for > too long and no longer has any credibility in the eyes of many people. > > In response, a number developers have agreed that "enough is enough" and > "it's time to take a new direction", for these developers the technical, > political and personal cost of multiproto is too high. These developers > have decided to make an announcement. > > Mauro Chehab, Michael Krufky, Patrick Boettcher and myself are hereby > announcing that we no longer support multiproto and are forming a > smaller dedicated project group which is focusing on adding next > generation S2/ISDB-T/DVB-H/DVB-T2/DVB-SH support to the kernel through a > different and simpler API. > > Basic patches and demo code for this API is currently available here. > > http://www.steventoth.net/linux/s2 > > Does it even work? Yes > Is this new API complete? No > Is it perfect? No, we've already had feedback on structural and > namingspace changes that people would like to see. > Does it have bugs? Of course, we have a list of things we already know > we want to fix. > > but ... > > Is the new approach flexible? Yes, we're moving away from passing fixed > modulation structures into the kernel. > Can we add to it without breaking the future ABI when unforseen > modulations types occur? Yes > Does it preserve backwards compatibility? Yes > Importantly, is the overall direction correct? Yes > Does it impact existing frontend drivers? No. > What's the impact to dvb-core? Small. > What's the impact to application developers? None, unless an application > developer wants to support the new standards - binary compatibility! > > We want feedback and we want progress, we aim to achieve it. > > Importantly, this project group seeks your support. > > If you also feel frustrated by the multiproto situation and agree in > principle with this new approach, and the overall direction of the API > changes, then we welcome you and ask you to help us. > > Growing the list of supporting names by 100%, and allowing us to publish > your name on the public mailing list, would show the non-maintainer > development community that we recognize the problem and we're taking > steps to correct the problem. We want to make LinuxTV a perfect platform > for S2, ISDB-T and other advanced modulation types, without using the > multiproto patches. > > We're not asking you for technical help, although we'd like that :) , > we're just asking for your encouragement to move away from multiproto. > > If you feel that you want to support our movement then please help us by > acking this email. > > Regards - Steve, Mike, Patrick and Mauro. > > Acked-by: Patrick Boettcher <pb@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Acked-by: Michael Krufky <mkrufky@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Acked-by: Steven Toth <stoth@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Acked-by: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Acked-by: Nicolas Will <nico@xxxxxxxxxxxx> I can't review code or provide any, but I have a server if needed. DVB-S2 and DVB-T2 (when it arrrives) are of interst to me. Nico _______________________________________________ linux-dvb mailing list linux-dvb@xxxxxxxxxxx http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb
