Nicolas Will wrote: > On Fri, 2008-08-29 at 14:29 -0400, Steven Toth wrote: >> Regarding the multiproto situation: >> >> A number of developers, maintainers and users are unhappy with the >> multiproto situation, actually they've been unhappy for a considerable >> amount of time. The linuxtv developer community (to some degree) is seen >> as a joke and a bunch in-fighting people. Multiproto is a great >> demonstration of this. [1] The multiproto project has gone too far, for >> too long and no longer has any credibility in the eyes of many people. >> >> In response, a number developers have agreed that "enough is enough" and >> "it's time to take a new direction", for these developers the technical, >> political and personal cost of multiproto is too high. These developers >> have decided to make an announcement. >> >> Mauro Chehab, Michael Krufky, Patrick Boettcher and myself are hereby >> announcing that we no longer support multiproto and are forming a >> smaller dedicated project group which is focusing on adding next >> generation S2/ISDB-T/DVB-H/DVB-T2/DVB-SH support to the kernel through a >> different and simpler API. >> >> Basic patches and demo code for this API is currently available here. >> >> http://www.steventoth.net/linux/s2 >> >> Does it even work? Yes >> Is this new API complete? No >> Is it perfect? No, we've already had feedback on structural and >> namingspace changes that people would like to see. >> Does it have bugs? Of course, we have a list of things we already know >> we want to fix. >> >> but ... >> >> Is the new approach flexible? Yes, we're moving away from passing fixed >> modulation structures into the kernel. >> Can we add to it without breaking the future ABI when unforseen >> modulations types occur? Yes >> Does it preserve backwards compatibility? Yes >> Importantly, is the overall direction correct? Yes >> Does it impact existing frontend drivers? No. >> What's the impact to dvb-core? Small. >> What's the impact to application developers? None, unless an application >> developer wants to support the new standards - binary compatibility! >> >> We want feedback and we want progress, we aim to achieve it. >> >> Importantly, this project group seeks your support. >> >> If you also feel frustrated by the multiproto situation and agree in >> principle with this new approach, and the overall direction of the API >> changes, then we welcome you and ask you to help us. >> >> Growing the list of supporting names by 100%, and allowing us to publish >> your name on the public mailing list, would show the non-maintainer >> development community that we recognize the problem and we're taking >> steps to correct the problem. We want to make LinuxTV a perfect platform >> for S2, ISDB-T and other advanced modulation types, without using the >> multiproto patches. >> >> We're not asking you for technical help, although we'd like that :) , >> we're just asking for your encouragement to move away from multiproto. >> >> If you feel that you want to support our movement then please help us by >> acking this email. >> >> Regards - Steve, Mike, Patrick and Mauro. >> >> Acked-by: Patrick Boettcher <pb@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> Acked-by: Michael Krufky <mkrufky@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> Acked-by: Steven Toth <stoth@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> Acked-by: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Acked-by: Nicolas Will <nico@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > I can't review code or provide any, but I have a server if needed. Nico, understood. Thats for the offer. > > DVB-S2 and DVB-T2 (when it arrrives) are of interst to me. ... and many other people. Thanks for your support. Regards, Steve _______________________________________________ linux-dvb mailing list linux-dvb@xxxxxxxxxxx http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb
