[resending because I was also kicked off the list, so sorry for the, mmmmh, spam, but it's not my fault] In a misguided attempt to curb spam, someone at linuxtv.org decided to use the sorbs blacklist. Like most other blacklists out there, it is *not* accurate in its listings, in fact it listed my *static* ip address (with a rDNS that clearly indicates that is *static*) as a dynamic one. (besides, I don't think discriminating small, legitimate, servers for the type of address is a good idea, though I can understand that someone could think so without realizing the full consequences). This is the second times it happens in a few months, they have delisted me (again), but in the meanwhile I lost possibly some interesting messages[*]. Other blackists are even worse, since they don't even listen to you, I'll concede that to sorbs, still, the concept is a flawed one. I suppose I'm not the only one in this situation, and it's extremely annoying when you find that you cannot communicate effectively because someone decided to use some random blacklist, hence I think than blacklists (and moreso those using them) are part of the problem, not part of the solution, I'll even say that are evil, since they block more legitimate mail than spam. Please reconsider the decision of using blacklists, *any* blacklist, no matter how well maintained they are, they *will* from time to time block innocent bystanters (like me or you). You can tell me I should use my ISP mail server instead of my own, but that's like telling me not to write my own drivers and to just use windows or macos, where "qualified" professionals already did the job for me. If you decide to go on relying on blacklists, at least use the one listing confirmed sources of spam, not the broader one using arbitrary and flawed criteria (like all supposedly dynamic/residential/adsl addresses, or all the ip from china, etc.). [*]since I don't accept mail from addresses that won't accept mine[**], I wasn't receiving any mail from linuxtv.org. At first I thought things were strangely quiet, but then I saw in my logs the sorbs error messages. [**] this is the only way for the other party to know that their isp is blocking legitimate email (thrugh the bounce message). Bye -- Luca _______________________________________________ linux-dvb mailing list linux-dvb@xxxxxxxxxxx http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb