On Thursday 16 June 2005 13:47, Felix Domke wrote: > > Is it worth supporting bouquets in the file formats do you think? None of > > the other formats support them, and from what I've seen of satellite > > receivers, they don't seem to bother with them much either (although that > > may admittedly be distorted by Sky's stranglehold on the UK DVB-S > > market). > > Bouquets in term of the BAT are useless, in my eyes, at least with the > current situation. > > On larger-scale networks (like DVB-S), it will never match what the user > expects. > > On smaller ones, like cable networks, it could be an alternative(!) to a > simple channel list, but as no receiver support them, nobody broadcasts > them. > > The only thing where i ever parsed a BAT was to find out how certain > receivers find their upgrade streams ;) > > I wish bouquets would be functional, but I see no chance here. Sorting > by provider_name, with some magic to join typos, gives much better results. This is what I suspected - I've never looked into bouquets in any detail myself though. Besides, bouquets/presets provided by the network providers (even if they were usable) would probably not actually correspond to what people really want in my experience :) > There are commercial services which provide something like "bouquet > files" and care of them. Unfortunately, they are non-free and thus > couldn't be used in GPL programs (unless we end up with a GPL program > which can't be used in certain situations). Maybe it's time to build a > free alternative for it, something like a (managed) Wiki where you can > build Bouquet lists, assign "channel numbers" (yes, some people resist > on using channel numbers for zapping. don't ask me why. But it's > definitely required, but definitely nonsense without some managed > lists). The resulting bouquets could then be downloaded to the receiver. > > They should NOT replace results of scan-lists. I think it's a bad idea > to save like 4 minutes of time by using prepared lists, which are > outdated, maybe miss some transponders or are simply wrong. > > But the "favourites" (aka "bouquets") could be managed in a central > way, maybe with different possibilities for different countries or user > groups. For example, there could be a "German Free-TV"-Bouquet, which > has "ProSieben" on 7, "Das Erste" on 1 etc., with the same for other > countries and their specific needs as well. Yeah, I agree - keep the presets seperate from the channel listings. Hopefully using your other suggestion we can have a "Global Unique Channel ID" so that will be possible. A free alternative sounds cool, once we get the file formats sorted. > We should even be able to transmit them over satellite, because they > aren't really high bandwidth. Ooh thats an interesting idea!
