> Is it worth supporting bouquets in the file formats do you think? None of the > other formats support them, and from what I've seen of satellite receivers, > they don't seem to bother with them much either (although that may admittedly > be distorted by Sky's stranglehold on the UK DVB-S market). Bouquets in term of the BAT are useless, in my eyes, at least with the current situation. On larger-scale networks (like DVB-S), it will never match what the user expects. On smaller ones, like cable networks, it could be an alternative(!) to a simple channel list, but as no receiver support them, nobody broadcasts them. The only thing where i ever parsed a BAT was to find out how certain receivers find their upgrade streams ;) I wish bouquets would be functional, but I see no chance here. Sorting by provider_name, with some magic to join typos, gives much better results. There are commercial services which provide something like "bouquet files" and care of them. Unfortunately, they are non-free and thus couldn't be used in GPL programs (unless we end up with a GPL program which can't be used in certain situations). Maybe it's time to build a free alternative for it, something like a (managed) Wiki where you can build Bouquet lists, assign "channel numbers" (yes, some people resist on using channel numbers for zapping. don't ask me why. But it's definitely required, but definitely nonsense without some managed lists). The resulting bouquets could then be downloaded to the receiver. They should NOT replace results of scan-lists. I think it's a bad idea to save like 4 minutes of time by using prepared lists, which are outdated, maybe miss some transponders or are simply wrong. But the "favourites" (aka "bouquets") could be managed in a central way, maybe with different possibilities for different countries or user groups. For example, there could be a "German Free-TV"-Bouquet, which has "ProSieben" on 7, "Das Erste" on 1 etc., with the same for other countries and their specific needs as well. We should even be able to transmit them over satellite, because they aren't really high bandwidth. Felix
