I noticed i could use /dev/video and xdtv.. xawtv works now, i don't do cat | mencoder and then mplayer anymore :) and plenty of channels work properly.. well i must say.. don't know if it is because i have a windows 2000 release somewhere on a tiny partition, but dvb/linux/tv. It looks ... hmm ... cpu use is 4% each 3 seconds.. and the quality of the picture / video, so smooth, so nice, compare to the crap, i have seen on windows. Well still some issues but they might not be related to dvb, sound doesn't work at all, and disecq, but i only tried once. Otherwise i used dvb-utils 1.1.0-7 and szap worked like the one in cvs for me. I thank you very much, all of you. It was hard work to find my way, and try to figure out, the kind of curiosity you all talk about, transponder, muxer.. and so many other stuff, but the result is pretty wonderful, for me. :) p :)