On 2020/6/16 22:57, Marc Smith wrote: > Hi, > > I'm using bcache in Linux 5.4.45 and have been doing a number of > experiments, and tuning some of the knobs in bcache. I have a very > small cache device (~16 GiB) and I'm trying to make full use of it w/ > bcache. I've increased the two module parameters to their maximum > values: > bch_cutoff_writeback=70 > bch_cutoff_writeback_sync=90 > These two parameters are only for experimental purpose for people who want to research bcache writeback bahavior, I don't recommend/support to change the default value in meaningful deployment. A large number may cause unpredictable behavior e.g. deadlock or I/O hang. If you decide to change these values in your environment, you have to take the risk for the above negative situation. > This certainly helps me allow more dirty data than what the defaults > are set to. But a couple other followup questions: > - Any additional recommended tuning/settings for small cache devices? Do not change the default values in your deployment. > - Is the soft threshold for dirty writeback data 70% so there is > always room for metadata on the cache device? Dangerous to try and > recompile with larger maximums? It is dangerous. People required such configurable value for research and study, it may cause deadlock if there is no room to allocate meta data. Setting {70, 90} is higher probably to trigger such deadlock. > - I'm still studying the code, but so far I don't see this, and wanted > to confirm that: The writeback thread doesn't look at congestion on > the backing device when flushing out data (and say pausing the > writeback thread as needed)? For spinning media, if lots of latency > sensitive reads are going directly to the backing device, and we're > flushing a lot of data from cache to backing, that hurts. This is quite tricky, the writeback I/O rate is controlled by a PD controller, when there are more regular I/Os coming, the writeback I/O will reduce to a minimum rate. But this is a try best effort, no real time throttle guaranteed. If you want to see in your workload which bch_cutoff_writeback or bch_cutoff_writeback_sync may finally hang your system, it is OK to change the default value for a research purpose. Otherwise please use the default value. I only look into related bug for the default value. Coly Li