On Sat, 2014-10-04 at 10:19 -0700, Len Ovens wrote: > On Sat, 4 Oct 2014, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > but they did not want it identified as a "machine". To solve this > > problem, Pat used the AUTO PAN setting of the SPX90 to keep the > > sixteenth note RX11 high-hat pattern moving, making it harder to focus > > on this track." > > Hiding Sure :D, it doesn't solve the problem :D. What really could eliminate some unwanted effects is a microsecond tuned delay for the reverb. Unfortunately I'm not aware about a Linux reverb that sounds good + providing microsecond tune-able delay, before the reverb starts. Using a good reverb for all instruments (available for Linux, by Fons), but fine tuning the delay, before the reverb starts just taking care about the drum machines hi-hat, could fix a lot ... AFAIK this fine tuning can't be done by good Linux reverbs, external gear is needed or maybe a combination of a delay and a reverb ... I simply use 19" stand alone gear. > , but really fixing the problem. It does depend on the effect the > musician is trying to produce. > > > That's just promotion, but using panning, usually MIDI control instead > > of a noise effect unit, was really one method used to avoid the > > machine-gun effect (just naming it "machine" in the sense of "drum > > machine" is an understatement/downplaying of the issue). > > In my case, I did mean machine. Machine gun would be something I use to > refer to drum rolls :) But in this case, the HH is not straight timed > notes. The timing shows quite a lot of variation. It is the sameness of > the sound I was refering to. > > This has taught me how much musicianship the average drummer puts into > their playing. I certainly never thought about it when I was playing as > the body movements are more subconsious than I thought. It is no wonder > drummers choose drums over pads. A friend is very gifted Jazz drummer, I hate to hear him playing the new Roland pads, the sound is much more pleasant, when he plays his 70s natural drum gear, but those modern e-drums aren't that bad as e.g. the Dauz drum pad I own, at least not when a gifted drummer plays this gear. At home I need to play guitar without an amp and I'm not one of those guys who guess that amp emulations can replace an amp. At home I can't play drums ... ok, I can't play drums where ever I'm ;), anyway, we sometimes aren't in optimal situations and need to use tricks, that _HIDE_ or better _MASK_ serious issues. _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user