Re: ABX test (was Re: What is the best MP3 encoder?)

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Quoting Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:

audio ABX tests are absolutely correct, MP3s not only sound lossless,
they improve the sound a lot. So lets spread this news and burn
everybody who doesn't believe in this :p.

Despite your slight sarcasm an ABX audio test *is* correct.
For that particular song, that particular encoder and that particular listener.

If you score, say, a 5% guessing probabililty in a 10 run test that means that it's very likely you really *can* hear the difference between the two files and hence the encoder isn't transparent. And, to clarify if it hasnt been made clear before, an ABX when it comes to testing a particular codec (lame, FhG, Xing) or encoder type (mp3, vorbis, opus, aac) really isn't "which file sounds better", it's "do I hear the difference between the two files". If you *do* hear the difference it's obviously your prerogative to claim that the encoded file sound shite, even though the test in itself doesn't ask that question, but if your score is around 50% you really wouldn't have a leg to stand on then it comes to such a claim.

I can't continue this discussion, I've to do some ABX tests to find out
what washing agent makes white clothes the most white and what motor oil
of the thinking motor oils has got the highest IQ.

Since you don't list any encoder test you really should try one once, just to be able to say "been there, done that, beat it". If you look at the video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jt7GyFW4hOI) it really isn't that complicated to set up and with your golden ears you should be able to fly through a 10 run test with a 0.1% guess probability in less than 2 minutes.

- Peder
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