On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 18:12 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > The issue that the drive will spin up and down again and again can be > avoided. > > I removed > > - thunar-volman > - tumbler > - gvfs > > on Arch Linux. No packages depend on those packages for my Arch Linux. > The drive keeps asleep, even with still one partition mounted. > Later I'll add one package after the other, to find out what does cause > the access and I also will take a look at Ubuntu. Arch Linux: Only gvfs needs to be removed, no need to remove thunar-volman and tumbler. However, thunar-volman without gvfs seems to be useless. Tumbler doesn't cause issues, but I don't know what it's good for. To see thumbnails with Thunar it isn't needed. I keep thunar-volman and tumbler on Arch and only removed gvfs. For my Arch nothing depends on gvfs, so it was the only package I had to remove. Ubuntu Quantal: root@q:~# apt-get purge gvfs The following packages will be REMOVED: brasero* gvfs* gvfs-backends* gvfs-fuse* nautilus* nautilus-sendto* nautilus-share* Who cares about the packages that depend on it? I anyway use Thunar instead of Nautilus and K3b instead of Brasero. Résumé: So who is to blame? By EU Regulation external drives must spin down. I even didn't completely read the German blah blah blah, http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Ab-2010-Maximal-2-Watt-im-Standby-Betrieb-von-Haushaltsgeraeten-PCs-und-Unterhaltungselektronik-Update-193947.html and I won't search for links in English. Xfce doesn't depend on gvfs, neither the Arch, nor the Ubuntu packages. Until now it seems to be, that without gvfs, partitions can't be mounted with a file browser, they have to be mounted by CLI. It's not only an issue for the USB drive, but also for USB sticks. It takes 30 minutes, then the WD Elements spins down and stays asleep. If you don't like this,than blame the EU. If you like it, then blame gvfs. Does VirtualBox still see my iPad 2 connected by USB when gvfs is removed? No problem, even an USB stick and even the external USB hard disk are available by VirtualBox. Is my KORG nanoKONTROL still accessible after removing gvfs? It still does show up in QjackCtl's ALSA tab. _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user