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Don't overlook the pushbuttons on each of the rack-mount unit's inputs that may be cutting about 10dB. Martin > Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 00:22:24 -0600 > From: ectropic.harmony@xxxxxxxxx > To: linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: Questions on New Recording Gear > > I haven't had a chance to test the entire set-up of multiple > connections just yet (see message below for what I'm thinking about > trying, I don't know if it'll work) but I have managed to get a basic > recording going with mics into mixer into delta interface into > computer. > > One issue right now - > > Levels. > > Really low levels. > > I've adjusted the levels on the mixer, in the envy24 control, and in > Ardour... and it's like I have to max things out just to get a decent > volume. > > What's the trick getting rock solid levels during recording and > playback both without having to max things out? :-\ > > Thanks! > > -"E.H." > > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Ectropic Harmony > <ectropic.harmony@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Okay, I'd like to try this arrangement with the > > cables/patch-bays/etc., though I currently need monitor speakers and > > am just using headphones- > > > > From sources to mixer: > > 1. 4 XLRs (mics) into Mackie strips 1-4 > > 2. 1 Line In (from guitar amp "Line Out") into Mackie strip 5 > > 3. 1 Line In (from another amp "Line Out") into Mackie strip 6 > > 4. 2 Line Ins (from "Master Out" (L&R) of elec.drumset) into Mackie strip "9-10" > > (Also hooking elec.drumset's MIDI up to the Delta 1010 dig.rec.system) > > (Also hooking up USB/MIDI keyboard/controller to computer) > > > > From mixer to digital recording system: > > 5. 4 TRSs (from Mackie Direct Outs 1-4) into Delta inputs 1-4 > > 6. 1 TRS (from Mackie Direct Out 5) into Delta input 5 > > 7. 1 TRS (from Mackie Direct Out 6) into Delta input 6 > > 8. 2 TRSs (from Mackie Sub Outs 1-2, with "1-2" enabled) into Delta inputs 7-8 > > > > From digital recording system to mixer: > > 9. 2 TRSs (from Delta Outs 1-2) into Mackie strip "13-14", with "L/R" enabled > > 10. 2 TRSs (from Delta Outs 3-4) into Mackie strip "15-16", with "L/R" enabled > > 11. 1 TRS (from Delta out 5) into Mackie strip 7, with "L/R" enabled > > 12. 1 TRS (from Delta out 6) into Mackie strip 8, with "L/R" enabled > > 13. 2 TRSs (from Delta outs 7-8) into Mackie strip "11-12", with "L/R" enabled > > > > From mixer to PA: > > 14. 2 TRSs (from Mackie Main Outs L&R) into PA channels 1 & 2 > > > > From PA to speakers: > > 15. 2 TRSs (from the 2 PA Outs) into 2 monitor speakers > > > > I don't know... would that set-up work? > > > > My hunch is using the PA is overkill in a home recording situation, > > though perhaps appropriate in a live setting. It has 4 channels, so > > that opens up an additional 2 free channels for 1 more stereo source. > > Right? > > > > Well, that's my attempt at using every single strip on the mixer. ;) I > > hope I didn't totally mutilate the patching order. > > > > Here's my attempt at a more immediate set-up for home recording and > > monitoring via headphones: > > > > From sources to mixer: > > 1. 4 XLRs (mics) into Mackie strips 1-4 > > 2. 1 Line In (from guitar amp "Line Out") into Mackie strip 5 > > 3. 1 Line In (from another amp "Line Out") into Mackie strip 6 > > 4. 2 Line Ins (from "Master Out" (L&R) of elec.drumset) into Mackie strip "9-10" > > (Also hooking up elec.drumset's MIDI to the Delta 1010 dig.rec.system) > > (Also hooking up USB/MIDI keyboard/controller to computer) > > > > From mixer to digital recording system: > > 5. 4 TRSs (from Mackie Direct Outs 1-4) into Delta inputs 1-4 > > 6. 1 TRS (from Mackie Direct Out 5) into Delta input 5 > > 7. 1 TRS (from Mackie Direct Out 6) into Delta input 6 > > 8. 2 TRSs (from Mackie Sub Outs 1-2, with "1-2" enabled) into Delta inputs 7-8 > > > > From digital recording system to mixer: > > 9. 2 TRSs (from Delta Outs 1-2) into Mackie strip "15-16", with "L/R" enabled > > (Using the Delta Outs 1-2 as Main Mix) > > > > From mixer to headphones: > > 10. Enable "Main Mix 'Source'" on Mackie & adjust phones volume w/ > > phones in phones port "A" on the Mackie > > > > I do plan on getting monitor speakers, and I do have normal computer > > speakers (Harmon-Kardon "2.1", not sure how I could implement those in > > this set-up) but I'll need to otherwise make do with headphones for > > now. > > > > I'd like to be able to use the 6 extra Delta Outs, the Mackie's subs > > 3-4, all of the extra Sub Outs on the back of the Mackie, the > > remaining two Direct outs (7 & 8) on the Mackie, the remaining Ins on > > the Mackie (7, 8, 11-12, & 13-14), and of course the Aux features > > would be auxsome... I mean awesome. All in due time. :) > > > > Anyway, did I do anything wrong with the patch set-ups above, in > > particular the 2nd one - with 10 steps - that ends up monitoring via > > headphones? > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 11:23 AM, Scott Ecker <lau@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> Ectropic Harmony wrote: > >>> I've recently started adding new gear to my studio, which isn't much... > >>> > >>> Here's the list... > >>> > >>> Instruments: > >>> Acoustic & electric guitars > >>> Bass guitar > >>> Electronic drumset (a very nice Roland, MIDI but also has direct > >>> outs/main outs (1/4" TRS)) > >>> USB/MIDI keyboard (M-Audio Axiom 49) > >>> Various other instruments, percussion, winds, strings > >>> > >>> Misc. gear: > >>> Amps (combos, i.e. Marshall, TubeWorks) > >>> Power amp (not currently using this, it's a 4 channel PA) > >>> > >>> Recording gear: > >>> 4 mics (AT2020s) > >>> Mixer (Mackie 1642-VLZ3, 16 channel 4 bus analog mixer) > >>> Digital audio interface (M-Audio Delta 1010) > >>> Computer (64-bit quad core 2.6GHz CPU, 4GB RAM, 3TB space; running > >>> Ubuntu Studio 9.10) > >>> > >>> The new equipment is the recording gear - specifically the Mackie > >>> mixer, the Delta 1010 audio interface, and the mics. > >>> > >> > >> This isn't too unlike my setup, except that I have an acoustic drum > >> kit. The keys to successful acoustic recording (IMO): > >> > >> 1. Good microphones. > >> 2. Good cables. > >> 3. Good mixer. > >> 4. Good room. > >> > >> The rest of it comes down to mic placement, and the quality of the > >> musicians themselves. The difference between the cheap and modestly > >> priced components above will manifest itself in hiss and line noise. > >> Every step in the chain must be good (or better) quality to get a smooth > >> recording. > >> > >> My setup is tubes and acoustics all the way to my DAW. Ardour is > >> amazing and does everything I need to record 12+ tracks simultaneously. > >> > >> -Scott > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Linux-audio-user mailing list > >> Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Linux-audio-user mailing list > Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user |
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