I haven't had a chance to test the entire set-up of multiple connections just yet (see message below for what I'm thinking about trying, I don't know if it'll work) but I have managed to get a basic recording going with mics into mixer into delta interface into computer. One issue right now - Levels. Really low levels. I've adjusted the levels on the mixer, in the envy24 control, and in Ardour... and it's like I have to max things out just to get a decent volume. What's the trick getting rock solid levels during recording and playback both without having to max things out? :-\ Thanks! -"E.H." On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Ectropic Harmony <ectropic.harmony@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Okay, I'd like to try this arrangement with the > cables/patch-bays/etc., though I currently need monitor speakers and > am just using headphones- > > From sources to mixer: > 1. 4 XLRs (mics) into Mackie strips 1-4 > 2. 1 Line In (from guitar amp "Line Out") into Mackie strip 5 > 3. 1 Line In (from another amp "Line Out") into Mackie strip 6 > 4. 2 Line Ins (from "Master Out" (L&R) of elec.drumset) into Mackie strip "9-10" > (Also hooking elec.drumset's MIDI up to the Delta 1010 dig.rec.system) > (Also hooking up USB/MIDI keyboard/controller to computer) > > From mixer to digital recording system: > 5. 4 TRSs (from Mackie Direct Outs 1-4) into Delta inputs 1-4 > 6. 1 TRS (from Mackie Direct Out 5) into Delta input 5 > 7. 1 TRS (from Mackie Direct Out 6) into Delta input 6 > 8. 2 TRSs (from Mackie Sub Outs 1-2, with "1-2" enabled) into Delta inputs 7-8 > > From digital recording system to mixer: > 9. 2 TRSs (from Delta Outs 1-2) into Mackie strip "13-14", with "L/R" enabled > 10. 2 TRSs (from Delta Outs 3-4) into Mackie strip "15-16", with "L/R" enabled > 11. 1 TRS (from Delta out 5) into Mackie strip 7, with "L/R" enabled > 12. 1 TRS (from Delta out 6) into Mackie strip 8, with "L/R" enabled > 13. 2 TRSs (from Delta outs 7-8) into Mackie strip "11-12", with "L/R" enabled > > From mixer to PA: > 14. 2 TRSs (from Mackie Main Outs L&R) into PA channels 1 & 2 > > From PA to speakers: > 15. 2 TRSs (from the 2 PA Outs) into 2 monitor speakers > > I don't know... would that set-up work? > > My hunch is using the PA is overkill in a home recording situation, > though perhaps appropriate in a live setting. It has 4 channels, so > that opens up an additional 2 free channels for 1 more stereo source. > Right? > > Well, that's my attempt at using every single strip on the mixer. ;) I > hope I didn't totally mutilate the patching order. > > Here's my attempt at a more immediate set-up for home recording and > monitoring via headphones: > > From sources to mixer: > 1. 4 XLRs (mics) into Mackie strips 1-4 > 2. 1 Line In (from guitar amp "Line Out") into Mackie strip 5 > 3. 1 Line In (from another amp "Line Out") into Mackie strip 6 > 4. 2 Line Ins (from "Master Out" (L&R) of elec.drumset) into Mackie strip "9-10" > (Also hooking up elec.drumset's MIDI to the Delta 1010 dig.rec.system) > (Also hooking up USB/MIDI keyboard/controller to computer) > > From mixer to digital recording system: > 5. 4 TRSs (from Mackie Direct Outs 1-4) into Delta inputs 1-4 > 6. 1 TRS (from Mackie Direct Out 5) into Delta input 5 > 7. 1 TRS (from Mackie Direct Out 6) into Delta input 6 > 8. 2 TRSs (from Mackie Sub Outs 1-2, with "1-2" enabled) into Delta inputs 7-8 > > From digital recording system to mixer: > 9. 2 TRSs (from Delta Outs 1-2) into Mackie strip "15-16", with "L/R" enabled > (Using the Delta Outs 1-2 as Main Mix) > > From mixer to headphones: > 10. Enable "Main Mix 'Source'" on Mackie & adjust phones volume w/ > phones in phones port "A" on the Mackie > > I do plan on getting monitor speakers, and I do have normal computer > speakers (Harmon-Kardon "2.1", not sure how I could implement those in > this set-up) but I'll need to otherwise make do with headphones for > now. > > I'd like to be able to use the 6 extra Delta Outs, the Mackie's subs > 3-4, all of the extra Sub Outs on the back of the Mackie, the > remaining two Direct outs (7 & 8) on the Mackie, the remaining Ins on > the Mackie (7, 8, 11-12, & 13-14), and of course the Aux features > would be auxsome... I mean awesome. All in due time. :) > > Anyway, did I do anything wrong with the patch set-ups above, in > particular the 2nd one - with 10 steps - that ends up monitoring via > headphones? > > Thanks! > > > On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 11:23 AM, Scott Ecker <lau@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Ectropic Harmony wrote: >>> I've recently started adding new gear to my studio, which isn't much... >>> >>> Here's the list... >>> >>> Instruments: >>> Acoustic & electric guitars >>> Bass guitar >>> Electronic drumset (a very nice Roland, MIDI but also has direct >>> outs/main outs (1/4" TRS)) >>> USB/MIDI keyboard (M-Audio Axiom 49) >>> Various other instruments, percussion, winds, strings >>> >>> Misc. gear: >>> Amps (combos, i.e. Marshall, TubeWorks) >>> Power amp (not currently using this, it's a 4 channel PA) >>> >>> Recording gear: >>> 4 mics (AT2020s) >>> Mixer (Mackie 1642-VLZ3, 16 channel 4 bus analog mixer) >>> Digital audio interface (M-Audio Delta 1010) >>> Computer (64-bit quad core 2.6GHz CPU, 4GB RAM, 3TB space; running >>> Ubuntu Studio 9.10) >>> >>> The new equipment is the recording gear - specifically the Mackie >>> mixer, the Delta 1010 audio interface, and the mics. >>> >> >> This isn't too unlike my setup, except that I have an acoustic drum >> kit. The keys to successful acoustic recording (IMO): >> >> 1. Good microphones. >> 2. Good cables. >> 3. Good mixer. >> 4. Good room. >> >> The rest of it comes down to mic placement, and the quality of the >> musicians themselves. The difference between the cheap and modestly >> priced components above will manifest itself in hiss and line noise. >> Every step in the chain must be good (or better) quality to get a smooth >> recording. >> >> My setup is tubes and acoustics all the way to my DAW. Ardour is >> amazing and does everything I need to record 12+ tracks simultaneously. >> >> -Scott >> _______________________________________________ >> Linux-audio-user mailing list >> Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user >> > _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user
