On Fri, 11 Dec 2009, Ken Restivo wrote: > On Tue, Dec 08, 2009 at 08:20:09AM +0100, Atte Andr? Jensen wrote: >> Ken Restivo wrote: >> >>> Never ceases to amaze me how the stuff I dash off in 20 minutes as an >>> experiment or test, is often more well-liked and effective than the >>> stuff I furrow my brow over and scratch my head over for weeks. >> >> It's called flow :-) >> >> Seriously, you're an improvising musician, and shouldn't be surprised >> that the more you compose under the same premises (no going back, first >> idea makes it), the more it's gonna feel natural to the listener. >> >> I try to compose as fast as possible. Then I listen to the result, >> sometimes for weeks, mostly just the next day, and rework parts that for >> some reason doesn't work. I also have no problem with throwing an entire >> composition away, I'd rather do that than sit and stare at the paper. >> There's always another composition to work on. >> >> What you (and I, so I should say "we") should really wonder, is which >> piece of audio software under linux *really* supports this way of >> working. Besides freewheelin (which only works with certain types of >> music), I can't really think of any :-( >> > > That's an excellent question. Freewheeling is great for "loopy" stuff. > Other than that, I can't think of anything better. > > The best workflow for recording that I had, back when I was doing a > lot of recording, was a hack involving Seq24 and Hydrogen. I'd sync > them up with JACK transport, start with a beat or bassline, using > 16-bar or 32-bar "loops" (seq24 is a loopy thing too), and then put > 64-bar "loops" over the top which were basically solos. I'd come up > with several variations of the beats and stagger them in some order > using Hydrogen. Then hit play and start turning loops on and off. > Sometimes I'd mute drum tracks or mess around with Hydrogen. > > But, again, that worked only for flat, jammy, unstructured, DJ-style, > groove pieces, which is what I was writing. There may have been a way > to use the same tools for more structured pieces, but I never explored > it. Seq24's song mode didn't work on my 64-bit system (still might > not; haven't checked in a while). Sometimes I do like to turn off the bars/beats/ticks ruler in Ardour, forget about quantizing (or throw sequencing out the window entirely), and just record, and let the quarter note pulse come from me. Then I can just record layers over it. It's almost as free as 4-track cassette...but *much* better audio quality... -- + Brent A. Busby + "We've all heard that a million monkeys + UNIX Systems Admin + banging on a million typewriters will + University of Chicago + eventually reproduce the entire works of + Physical Sciences Div. + Shakespeare. Now, thanks to the Internet, + James Franck Institute + we know this is not true." -Robert Wilensky _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user