Brent Busby wrote: > On Fri, 11 Dec 2009, Ken Restivo wrote: > >> On Tue, Dec 08, 2009 at 08:20:09AM +0100, Atte Andr? Jensen wrote: >>> Ken Restivo wrote: >>> >>>> Never ceases to amaze me how the stuff I dash off in 20 minutes as an >>>> experiment or test, is often more well-liked and effective than the >>>> stuff I furrow my brow over and scratch my head over for weeks. >>> It's called flow :-) >>> >>> Seriously, you're an improvising musician, and shouldn't be surprised >>> that the more you compose under the same premises (no going back, first >>> idea makes it), the more it's gonna feel natural to the listener. >>> >>> I try to compose as fast as possible. Then I listen to the result, >>> sometimes for weeks, mostly just the next day, and rework parts that for >>> some reason doesn't work. I also have no problem with throwing an entire >>> composition away, I'd rather do that than sit and stare at the paper. >>> There's always another composition to work on. >>> >>> What you (and I, so I should say "we") should really wonder, is which >>> piece of audio software under linux *really* supports this way of >>> working. Besides freewheelin (which only works with certain types of >>> music), I can't really think of any :-( >>> >> That's an excellent question. Freewheeling is great for "loopy" stuff. >> Other than that, I can't think of anything better. >> >> The best workflow for recording that I had, back when I was doing a >> lot of recording, was a hack involving Seq24 and Hydrogen. I'd sync >> them up with JACK transport, start with a beat or bassline, using >> 16-bar or 32-bar "loops" (seq24 is a loopy thing too), and then put >> 64-bar "loops" over the top which were basically solos. I'd come up >> with several variations of the beats and stagger them in some order >> using Hydrogen. Then hit play and start turning loops on and off. >> Sometimes I'd mute drum tracks or mess around with Hydrogen. >> >> But, again, that worked only for flat, jammy, unstructured, DJ-style, >> groove pieces, which is what I was writing. There may have been a way >> to use the same tools for more structured pieces, but I never explored >> it. Seq24's song mode didn't work on my 64-bit system (still might >> not; haven't checked in a while). > > Sometimes I do like to turn off the bars/beats/ticks ruler in Ardour, > forget about quantizing (or throw sequencing out the window entirely), > and just record, and let the quarter note pulse come from me. Then I > can just record layers over it. It's almost as free as 4-track > cassette...but *much* better audio quality... That's sort of like me. I'm horrible at deciding beforehand just how fast a piece should be, or what time signature it should use. (I'm still trying to figure out the time signature of the little riff in the improvisation I posted a few weeks ago - and I've been playing that riff for 4-5 years now.) So I'll arm a track in Rosegarden and just start playing - then have to sort through the resulting mess when I've finally played my way to the time/tempo the song wants. Perhaps I should request a new feature in Rosegarden: a "no time signature" mode. Just let the notes come in as they may - and clean it up afterwards. I just asked about that on the Rosegarden-users list, will see what comes of it. -- David gnome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx authenticity, honesty, community _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user
