On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 5:49 AM, Mark Knecht <markknecht@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 7:11 PM, Brent Busby <brent@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> On Sun, 10 May 2009, Ray Rashif wrote: >> >>>> From personal experience, my very first _hobby_ project before I started out >>> in the audio industry was to set up a Linux studio environment with Gentoo. >>> I ended up victimised and gave in to the CFLAGS club while never having >>> gotten anything done. That was the period of my life I wish I could fix. I >> >> I've already avoided getting sucked into that in my life with FreeBSD. >> I use only '-O2 -march=athlon64 -pipe' and nothing else. >> >> If I were to go to Gentoo, I wouldn't be seeking compiler optimizations >> so much as freedom to keep consistent things that distros change their >> minds about just as soon as you think you've found one with policies you >> like. Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora, Suse...I used to think they were each >> mistakes in a learning process until I finally realized that at the >> particular time I liked each one, it was because of something they were >> each respectively doing right at the time. They just change their minds >> and you have to go looking for a new "least evil choice." >> >> I think one possibly overlooked advantage of a source-based distro is it >> might give you a platform where you can adopt a policy of your own for >> how things are going to be and expect that it will stay the same long >> enough for you to enjoy it. I don't know, I'm still trying to decide >> though, and I am open to all kinds of ideas. > > Be careful with Gentoo and thinking you can keep things stable. Gentoo > removes packages from portage, sometimes quite quickly. You could > build a working machine today and find out 6 months from now that if > you tried to build the same machine again you couldn't. I've had this > problem with two machines I have that require an old ATI driver to get > video on the S-Video output, and that driver only works with old > kernels, and neither the driver or the kernel are available in portage > anymore. I was able to build this machine 4 years ago. No way I could > build it today except that I created my own overlay after finding out > that Gentoo removed everything I needed. > > It's very do-able with Gentoo but you need to stay on top of it. > > And I agree - compiler options are not the most important. I use very > simple CFLAGS, just as you propose. USE flags handle most of what I > need to do. I use Gentoo as a DAW and don't see myself moving away from that anytime soon. The power of USE flags means I can decide on a whim how I want my system to be, without the package maintainers having much influence on me. Setting up your own overlay with old packages you might need is a breeze once you look into how it works, and compile times shouldn't be much of an issue these days. On a quad core I can even compile at the same time as recording music! Otherwise, compiling at night should work for most people. Don't mess with CFLAGS ;) Arve _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user
