On 10:47:48 pm 03/11/07 Robin Gareus I agree with you on many points too. My main point is to encourage everyone to look at the work that has been done so far as professional quality, done by professionals and attempting to present a professional face. If there are issues with the execution or the outcome of many of the projects it's a good thing to discuss how to make things better. For example recently many people have spoken about the lack of accessible and uptodate documentation. I would like to counter that it is all there in the wild but we don't have a very complete way of presenting it to the public. There currently exists at least 10 websites that store useful info for Linux audio. These are probably the most well known: linuxaudio.org alsa-project.org agnula.org ccrma ubuntu gentoo If someone was to take over managing a docs subdomain at LAO then it would be handy to compile a links list to all the documentation that is currently hosted on the sites above and any other sites that are deemed worthy. However this is at least a three month project and also requires a concerted effort from the various site admins and contributors to provide systematic updates. It will also require someone/s to be actively monitoring for new information as it is released/published. If we were to provide an automated interface for adding content it would also be helpful. In my opinion a wiki is not the ideal solution for this particular project as it leaves too much room for variation of the content being presented. Better would be to have a form very similar to the form on the vst plugins page. In fact it wouldn't take long for someone to use the code for that project as a base. It would be a good project for a newbie to cut their teeth on and get some web programming experience with fully functional web server. If anyone is interested in polishing/learning some web programming skills let us know. Cheers. -- Patrick Shirkey Boost Hardware Ltd