On 10:48:40 pm 03/09/07 Robin Gareus > > I was under the impression that linuxaudio.org is a NPO, implying a > mission not a profession. > Daniel setup LAO as a focal point for the professional market to come to and for the professionals among us to have a representative contact point that other professional companies would feel comfortable interacting with. The full mission is clearly presented on the main page at www.linuxaudio.org. I'm a professional Linux Audio Developer and there are several others who have contributed the lion share of the audio backend who are too. Being a professional Linux Audio Developer is something to be proud of and is even a marketing angle that gives a certain level of immediate respect when dealing with companies that come from a windows or more traditional commercial dev background. The way Thorsten chooses to work with us on his design projects is certainly different to most companies but I think in only one major respect. He doesn't waste time to get the ball rolling. We aren't left with long delays to justify the enormous charges that most designers attempt to invoice. IMO self deprecating comments about the so called "unprofessional" approach of yours and others obvious hard work because you/they are not being paid in dollars and cents is unnecessary. Even more so when you are contributing to the Linux Audio.org family of projects. I'll attempt to state this again now. It's a good thing to be a professional Linux Audio Developer!!! We are different from the rest of the pack. It's something the rest of the pack respects. It's a way of increasing your marketability in a highly competitive industry. It's a badge of honor to be worn with pride. Anyone who says otherwise is mistaken or misinformed. If you can do it, do it well and enjoy it when you do. Nuff said? -- Patrick Shirkey Boost Hardware Ltd