On Wednesday 25 October 2006 17:30, Rob was like: > These choices are not only for my own convenience, but because I > see a day in the future where I can seriously tell a pretty > normal user, "To do anything you want on this Linux machine you > will never need to see a command line or edit a config file." > It's already about 90% of the way there but then one of my > customers or my partner will ask me how to do something and I'll > have to grumble and open up Konsole. Yep, that's the issue for most set-ups. I find Ubuntu (gnome version) gets pretty close to this, so I put it on most of my public machines. Can't stand using it myself, mind you. ;) > E16 was popular with the tweaker set and I know e17 will be as > well. I personally have no use for weird bitmap themes or > partially transparent terminals or white-on-dark-brown color > schemes or weird ornamental fonts that make me feel like I'm > using a fake computer on the set of one of the CSI's or a > desktop interface that consists of "right click on the desktop > to do anything", and that's what I remember from e16. I think > you just have to be a little more, uh, elite than me to > appreciate that stuff. Dunno about elite, you just have to like and want it. Mmm, so I'll probably try E17 when I get time. Heh. :] -- cheers, tim hall http://glastonburymusic.org.uk/tim We are the people We've been waiting for.