On Tue, 2006-06-06 at 12:58 +0000, c wrote: > > (it isn't a ripoff of the vst logo) > yeah. http://www.lnt.de/~stepe/demo/VSTPlugin/pics/VST_logo.jpg . 3 characters, sounded by a rounded rect, and a shiny coating of some sort.. thats all the points of inflection I need.. you didn't say it had similar elements. you said i was going for a ripoff design. you were wrong and should expect to be called on it when you throw around language like that. perhaps you should think about the significance of what you say. if you did, you would understand why i'm annoyed. so, lets see: "3 characters" indeed there are 3 characters. would you have me put six in the logo instead? or, how many? and which letters should i choose now that the logo can no longer show the actual name of the plugin system that the logo is supposed to represent? "surrounded by a rounded rect" a surround is important in order to facilitate the inverted monochrome version (for display against a black background) in a manner consistent with the requisite variations. as the characters are written from left to right. (i'm not japanese or arabic and so it's natural to me to do it that way.. as did thorwil in each of his designs, i might add). if the fonts are of typical proportions then the footprint will be similar to any other LtR logo of three chars. a border or boundary would normally trace the outline of the text in some way. so, while the end result is not inevitable it's certainly not unusual or even inventive. it's just what you get when you need a border around a simple 3 letter sequence, written LtR. note also that these versions http://www.zenadsl6252.zen.co.uk/logo-corporate-bling.png http://www.zenadsl6252.zen.co.uk/render-plug-1-shrp.png _preceeded_ my final design and when i optimised out the superfluous detail, i ended up with what you now see. "and a shiny coating of some sort" now you are taking the piss. a logo with a reflective surface? heresy!!! in spite of the obvious fact the the vst logo features brushed metal and NOT glass as used in the detail version of my logo, you well know that the glass effect i used is the most over used effect in vector gfx ever. and certainly, the use of reflective surfaces is NOT the sole preserve of the vst logo designers anyway. basically, any similarities are born out of common considerations. within the above constraints, it would be difficult for it to be more dissimilar to the vst logo imo. (different colours, different fonts, asymmetrical layout, solid background, solid border, flat colour, no additional detail, glass not metal, combination of two fonts..) > the reason i prefer thorwils is the hand-crafted look instead of just a font (and 2 different incongruous fonts at that), > the 2 is too thin and hanging off a clif, and looks like its about to be replaced with a 3, then a 4. where as the 2 in the > other one is clearly there to stay (given the extensibility i'd hope this is the case), and is 'plugging in' to the rest of > the logo, without an obvious graphical plug as displayed in the VST logo the reason that you prefer thorwil's has little to do with accusing me of ripping off other peoples work. even after that, if your concerns spoke of anything other than personal preference i would still heed them. but they don't. so i won't. i can't please everyone and won't try to do so at the expense of my own opinions anyway. > id like to see thorwil's logo given the 4 panel treatment. since i definitely agree with everything in logo_variations.png except the typography itself.. if you think that it's a ripoff of the vst logo even though the layout, fonts and colours used are totally different then i fail to see how changing the text design again is going to change that. personally, i'm happy for one of thorwil's designs to be chosen. i only suggested the competition because i enjoy doing this kind of stuff but if i was also going to submit a logo, then why not anyone else? so yeah, thanks for accusing me of stealing other people's ideas, being manifestly unable to substantiate that claim and obliging me to waste time writing in defence of a project that i undertook for fun in the hopes of contributing to a linux audio project that i care about. have a nice day won't you c. pete.
