> (it isn't a ripoff of the vst logo) yeah. http://www.lnt.de/~stepe/demo/VSTPlugin/pics/VST_logo.jpg . 3 characters, sounded by a rounded rect, and a shiny coating of some sort.. thats all the points of inflection I need.. the reason i prefer thorwils is the hand-crafted look instead of just a font (and 2 different incongruous fonts at that), the 2 is too thin and hanging off a clif, and looks like its about to be replaced with a 3, then a 4. where as the 2 in the other one is clearly there to stay (given the extensibility i'd hope this is the case), and is 'plugging in' to the rest of the logo, without an obvious graphical plug as displayed in the VST logo id like to see thorwil's logo given the 4 panel treatment. since i definitely agree with everything in logo_variations.png except the typography itself.. cheers... > ;)