On 3/17/06, cdr <ix@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Fri Mar 17, 2006 at 09:31:52PM +0100, Yves Potin wrote: > > > > Hello. > > I'm about to switch from Debian Sid 32 bits to Gentoo 64 bits. I > > have noticed ( http://packages.gentoo.org/search/?sstring=specimen ) that > > Specimen isn't provided as a package in Gentoo 64 bits. So I have two > > questions : > > - Does the source code of Specimen compile and permits a normally > > usable Specimen under a 64 Bits OS ? (and, if it's the case, does anybody > > know why there's no gentoo package ? Lack of interest from any developper > > or something, as quite any other audio apps seems to be avalaible under > > gentoo ?). > > grep KEYW `equery which specimen` > KEYWORDS="-amd64 ~ppc sparc x86" > > since its not just lacking amd64 entirely (this only seems to happen for obscure ruby packages), and has a specifically negative amd64, this means its broken. a quick run to http://bugs.gentoo.org, and search for specimen, reveals some updated ebuild for 0.5.1, and a comment: #-amd64: 0.4.5: int/pointer casting. > > if you want to try installing it anyways, nano `equery which specimen` and change the -amd64 to amd64, emerge --digest specimen, and if it works, make a comment on the bug report that its fixed on amd64 (you proably want to grab the 0.5.1 ebuild before doing this) > > > - If I setup a 32 bits chroot under Gentoo 64 bits as it's > > documented here : > > ( http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/amd64/howtos/index.xml?part=1&chap=2 > > ), will Specimen be usable just as a normal jackd-enabled software, with > > jackd running in the 64 bits environment ? More generally, when > > encountering an audio software which cannot run in 64 bits, how does it > > work with 64 bits jackd ? > > 64bit jackd can not talk to 32bit apps, afaik. you could run a 32bit jackd, and link with the other via UDP. or try the ALSA-lib plug:jack, or try using it in 64bit mode and figure out if theres any bugs ( SClang and PD would both require significant rewriting to work on 64bit mode due to their "VM"-y nature that expects ints to be the same size as pointers, but most everything else works fine ) > > > Thanks in advance for any enlightenment :). > > Cheers, > > > > Y. > Or possibly run Specimen in a 32-bit chroot. I have a complete chroot'ed environment on my Gentoo 64-bit machine so that I can run all the win32codec and Flash stuff necessary to exist on the web these days. Much, much, much web content doesn't work with Linux 64-bit machines but works great in the 32-bit chroot. NOTE: This is not trivially easy to deal with all the time, but it does work when you need it to. I am also working to make my machine dual boot, 64-bit and 32-bite, so that I can evaulate different VMWare/Parallel's type solutions. Cheers, Mark